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How come rock guys lose their creativity much soooner than jazz & blues guys?

Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:51 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:51 am
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Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:06 am to
They spend more time touring and less time just having free jam sessions on drugs.
Posted by ChoupiqueSacalait
9th Ward
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:37 am to
Rock is about angst and testosterone. You grow out of it.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 9:44 am to
I agree. I have often found it very hard to write rock music when you're not sad, lonely, or pissed off.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:17 am to
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They spend more time touring and less time just having free jam sessions on drugs.


You are listening to the wrong rock music
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:26 am to
drugs
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:30 am to
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drugs


Wrong. They typically lose more creativity when they get off the drugs than when they're on them.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:30 am to
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You are listening to the wrong rock music


Jazz Fusion is not the same as "rock" music. Fusion is a sub-genre and a pretty small niche one at that. Most rock lacks those prolonged acid jam sessions, or at least has since the early 70's. Being a famous rock musician lends little time for composing new music. Throw in the fact that much of jazz is without vocals, it makes sense. Generally, the first thing that goes "stale" for a popular rock artist is the lyrics. Lyrics being the most difficult part of music writing isn't necessary in Jazz and is almost rare. It's easy to constantly churn out riffs when you don't have to worry about composing them around a story or message that you are attempting to convey.

They are completely different medium with completely different challengers facing the songwriter.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:32 am to
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They typically lose more creativity when they get off the drugs than when they're on them.


exactly
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:33 am to
Ah, I misunderstood.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:33 am to
I like the blues, but who was the last innovative blues performer? Robert Cray? It has all become formulaic and sounds the same to me these days. I will say that some of the "blues" that is played on Bluesville would have been considered rock just a few years ago.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:51 am to
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Rock is about angst and testosterone. You grow out of it, but the rock audience does not
fify

how do rappers stay so creative and innovative for so long?
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:57 am to
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how do rappers stay so creative and innovative for so long?

Posted by ChoupiqueSacalait
9th Ward
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:59 am to
I wouldn't know.

I haven't bought a rap record since Fear Of A Black Planet.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:59 am to
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how do rappers stay so creative and innovative for so long?


By continuously "sampling" tracks and beats from innovative artists.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:02 am to
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I haven't bought a rap record since Fear Of A Black Planet
but you have bought one

like they say, you can build a thousand bridges, but you frick one goat...
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:50 am to
Spare me the bullshite. You think I don't know what fricking jazz fusion is?
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Being a famous rock musician lends little time for composing new music.


Once again, you are listening to shitty rock.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:45 pm to
Drugs
Alcohol
Many haven´t musical ´chops´, and are pretty much one trick ponies (the world passes them and their niche within a niche by).
Posted by ErshterMang
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:52 pm to
Rock tunes often a unique but catchy angle or hook. Not all tunesmiths can keep doing that over a lifetime. Plus if they do write something that cashes in, they may not have to anymore.

Jazz and blues musicians dont often make the big hits and they have to keep going to make a living. Jazz is an obscure form with many ways to go which the layman wont even notice. Blues by contrast has a very distinct form so I dont think they really keep their creativity they might even stop writing and just play their earlier stuff for a really long time.

Posted by Tiger in Texas
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:05 pm to
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how do rappers stay so creative and innovative for so long?


Are you joking??
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