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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:25 am to Sayre
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You're not really understanding the song in the context of the concept album it was on.
Not really. You're right. Don't know concept. Just know what the song can be interpreted as. Great song. "Pin prick" is never going to be interpreted as, we had a doctor on staff who gave me a shot of something to get me through an illness while on tour. The members had to explain that. I'm guessing some years later.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:56 am to LSU alum wannabe
Bowie's album Station to Station was the result of a lot of drugs, although mainly cocaine. For heroin, I'd say Badfish by Sublime.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:01 pm to LSU alum wannabe
No Rain, Blind Melon
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:38 pm to The Seaward
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I would think Heroin by The Velvet Underground would be the ultimate heroin song. I've never done heroin, but it sounds like it would be the perfect soundtrack to a heroin trip.
Well, it is specifically designed to mimic a heroin trip with the drums as the heartbeat.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:54 pm to Sayre
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Nobody in Pink Floyd was a big time drug user other than booze.
Weed. And Syd was a notorious LSD overindulger (combined with his schizophrenia - just turned out badly for him).
As for Comfortably Numb, the essence of the story is in the song and, somewhat, covered by the corresponding scene in the film. Roger, while on tour, had some stomach cramps before a show in Philly - I guess the doctor, used to drug resistant rock stars, shot him up with horse tranquilizers or something.
The lyrics - obviously referring to the themes of alienation, lost youth, etc., explicitly recall that incident where he tried to play a show and could barely feel/move his arms.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:53 pm to Ace Midnight
It also specifically references an illness he had when he was young.
"once when I was a child I had a fever my hands swelled up like two balloons now I've got that feeling once again"
David Gilmour wrote the chorus.
"once when I was a child I had a fever my hands swelled up like two balloons now I've got that feeling once again"
David Gilmour wrote the chorus.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:24 pm to Sayre
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once when I was a child I had a fever my hands swelled up like two balloons now I've got that feeling once again"
What gave him that feeling once again. I assume heroin COULD.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:36 pm to Sayre
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nor does it have the first thing to do with it.
Yeah, I know what Waters has said, but I don't believe him.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:14 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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What gave him that feeling once again. I assume heroin COULD.
You could assume that, until you did some research on the song and it's composition.
Ace got it pretty well right. What made him numb was something a doctor gave him. Some kind of tranquilizer or like a Valium or Quaalude.
It's told from the perspective of Pink, the protagonist on the albums and the film.
Look around YouTube for the scene from the film.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:18 pm to saint amant steve
I believe "slow cheetah" by the red hot chili peppers is about heroin use as well.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:56 pm to The Seaward
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Heroin by The Velvet Underground
althoug I'm not sure I'd consider it "Great Music"
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:28 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Heroin by The Velvet Underground althoug I'm not sure I'd consider it "Great Music"
Lou Reed's version on Rock and Roll Animal is pretty freakin great.
IMO
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, I know what Waters has said, but I don't believe him.
Some of this too.??
Why not admit it? Who knows? I just know how easily it could be heroin.
And as to the context of the film. When was the song written? It is too good for me to believe it was written to fit a script or a theme. I would assume the theme was after some of the songs were written and the story/concept was wrapped around a great song that they had in their pocket already? If not then its just another tip of the cap to how great they are/were.
"Hey guys I got this scene in the film I envision and it needs a song?"
"well bloody hell I'll pull this out of my arse." (all with Brit accent)
Posted on 11/12/15 at 6:09 pm to LSU alum wannabe
I'm not here to quibble. 
I've been wrong to often to count. I am fully able to admit some Pink Floyd TRUE fans are on here and know more than me. I only know a handful of their songs.
Really just here to talk heroin songs. As I mentioned in OP the notion that Gordon LIGHTFOOT was smacked up when he wrote Sundown blew me away.
I've been wrong to often to count. I am fully able to admit some Pink Floyd TRUE fans are on here and know more than me. I only know a handful of their songs.
Really just here to talk heroin songs. As I mentioned in OP the notion that Gordon LIGHTFOOT was smacked up when he wrote Sundown blew me away.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:11 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Why not admit it? Who knows? I just know how easily it could be heroin.
And as to the context of the film. When was the song written? It is too good for me to believe it was written to fit a script or a theme. I would assume the theme was after some of the songs were written and the story/concept was wrapped around a great song that they had in their pocket already? If not then its just another tip of the cap to how great they are/were.
"Hey guys I got this scene in the film I envision and it needs a song?"
"well bloody hell I'll pull this out of my arse." (all with Brit accent)
The people that wrote the song know what it's about
and it's meaning. They've talked about it over the years.
The music was a Gilmore composition that he'd had for a bit. Waters added the lyrics later.
By the time the song was recorded, Waters had pretty much commandeered the direction of the band and all the songwriting duties, which is most of the reason for the bad blood that broke them up.
Google. Use it.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:33 pm to Sayre
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The music was a Gilmore composition that he'd had for a bit. Waters added the lyrics later.
By the time the song was recorded, Waters had pretty much commandeered the direction of the band and all the songwriting duties, which is most of the reason for the bad blood that broke them up.
Gilmour describes this (and Waters does not dispute it) as the last positive moment of true collaboration during the Waters/Gilmour era of Pink Floyd. Roger had the concept of the song. David did the music. Roger sings the verse. David sings the chorus. And it is a brilliant piece of musicianship. The solo is #1 on many lists and Top 5 on them all - when you consider how slow and relatively simple that solo is - compared to others on the list - it is truly one of the best rock songs of all time, period. Up there with Stairway.
(And, yeah, when I was a stupid high school kid, I thought it was about heroin, too. But it isn't.)
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:52 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Snowblind Friend - Steppenwolf (written by Hoyt Axton)
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He said he wanted Heaven but prayin' was too slow
So he bought a one way ticket on an airline made of snow
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:57 pm to LSU alum wannabe
The Church - Gold Afternoon Fix
By this time, Steve Kilbey had developed a serious heroin habit. He has been very open about his addiction and its influence on his writing.
By this time, Steve Kilbey had developed a serious heroin habit. He has been very open about his addiction and its influence on his writing.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:19 pm to LJBurton
I may have misinterpreted the thread title.
I'd say that probably half of Aerosmith's early works would qualify in this category if we are talking about music written while under heroin influence. No way to know how much of Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin's work was "enhanced".
I'd say that probably half of Aerosmith's early works would qualify in this category if we are talking about music written while under heroin influence. No way to know how much of Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin's work was "enhanced".
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