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Heroin fueled great music? Another earlier thread got me thinking.

Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:45 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:45 am
A Gordon Lightfoot thread got me wondering the other day. Someone said Sundown was a product of a heroin fueled writing session. I did not know that.

How many great GREAT songs are the product of someone loaded on heroin?

Comfortably Numb is a given. But that is a song about heroin essentially?

Another lyric but to get you guys going. "There's a hole in Daddys arm where all the money goes...." Who wrote that?

It is such a deal with the devil. Writing timeless music while trying to live past 27.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:49 am to
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How many great GREAT songs are the product of someone loaded on heroin?

Comfortably Numb is a given. But that is a song about heroin essentially?


Nobody in Pink Floyd was a big time drug user other than booze. And the song was not written while neither Roger Waters or David Gilmore was on heroin nor does it have the first thing to do with it.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 8:59 am
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:50 am to
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Another lyric but to get you guys going. "There's a hole in Daddys arm where all the money goes...." Who wrote that?


That's 'Sam Stone' by John Prine. It's about how so many vets came back from Vietnam with psychological and substance abuse issues.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 8:53 am
Posted by BasilFawlty
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2014
1155 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:53 am to
John Prine wrote the lyric...song is "Sam Stone"
Posted by TheSlizzardKing
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:57 am to
Needle and the Damage Done. Tribute to Danny Whitten of Crazy Horse.

Dead Flowers by the Stones mentions it,
"I'll be in my basement room, with a needle and a spoon. And another girl to take my pain away."

China White by Lowell George and Little Feat.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 9:10 am
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:00 am to
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How many great GREAT songs are the product of someone loaded on heroin?


Janes Addiction - Slow Divers?

quote:

She said
Do you think you could
And I said
Yeah
In a second
I'm sitting by a waterfall and when the people jump in
They hold their nose and kiss these walls
Granite walls
Water-polished walls
Just don't ever want to move from this spot
You can sit here for so long!
There's a slide
Suislide
You can live or die
Going down
Going down
Go down!
Boy came to the side
I said
"you want to go down that slide?"
He said
"no man
Hey you got a joint to sell me?"
We just smoked one
We got a roach we said
"I'll smoke the roach!"
But first go down that slide man
Go on down
Go on down
Go on down!
I'm sitting by a waterfall...
Could bear to watch the people slip and fall
You know the plants on the rocks are crazy
Thinking that they could start a life
On the spiral walls of a waterfall!
Slow divers?
Their view is spectacular!
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 9:02 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26977 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:05 am to
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Nobody in Pink Floyd was a big time drug user other than booze. And the song was not written while neither Roger Waters or David Gilmore was on heroin nor does it have the first thing to do with it.


Nothing to do with it? I believe the song was written and they had to know what it sounded like and how it would be interpreted. So you are saying they tricked me? Bastards!!! Still an all time favorite solo. Like Clapton and SRV had a baby and he wrote that solo. Speed never gets above medium. But it is perfect, because it's not about speed.
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:06 am to
The Heroin Diaries by Sixx A.M. chronicles Nikki Sixx's heroin addiction.

"Under the Bridge" by Red Hot Chili Peppers is about Anthony Kiedis' addiction.

"Needle and the Spoon" by Lynyrd Skynyrd

Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39176 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:09 am to
Alice in Chains - Dirt basically the entire album is heroin music.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:14 am to
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Nothing to do with it? I believe the song was written and they had to know what it sounded like and how it would be interpreted.


Do some Googling and find out for yourself.

You're not really understanding the song in the context of the concept album it was on.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:19 am to
Nirvana, 'On A Plain'

"I got so high I scratched 'till I bled'

A side effect of being a heroin/opioid junkie is an intense itchy feeling.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:22 am to
Nine Inch Nails, 'Hurt'

'The needle tears a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away
But I remember everything'
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:27 am to
Everclear, 'Heroin Girl'

Also, 'Strawberry'

"I ask you for a slow ride
Going nowhere
You look like Satan
You ask me if I want to get high
Couple of bags down in old town
You tie your arm and
Ask me if I wanted to drive"
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37608 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:28 am to
Exile On Main Street - The Rolling Stones

The whole entire albumn
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 9:34 am
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:30 am to
Failure had a minor hit with a song called 'Stuck On You'. The casual listener thinks he's talking about a girl, but it's the most cleverly subtle way I've ever heard someone describe a heroin addiction.

And it's a an awesome tune.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:38 am to
'Three Days' by Jane's Addiction is about a three day heroin and booze fueled tryst between Perry Farrel, his girlfriend, and a 16 year old girl named Xiola Blue. Xiola ended up dying of an heroin overdose in New York after the song was already written, but it was recorded after that.

The opening spoken monologue goes

'At this moment, you should be with us
Feeling like we do, like you loved to
But never will again
I miss you my dear Xiola'


'Jane Says' is about a chick named Jane Painter. She was a highly educated heroin junkie from back east who was a room mate of Farrel in the house he lived in in Los Angeles when Jane's Addiction was getting started.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:44 am to
'Pool Shark' by Sublime

'Lying in my plastic bed
Thinking how things weren't so cool to me
My baby likes to shoot pool
I like lyin' naked in my bedroom
Tying on the dinosaur tonight
It used to be so cool

But now I've got the needle
And I can shake but I can't breathe
I take it away
But I want more and more
One day I'm gonna loose the war'

He was right too. He lost the war right before they made it big.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 9:45 am
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:49 am to
'Not If You Were The Last Junkie On Earth' by the Dandy Warhols.

It's about Anton Newcombe, the lead singer and driving force of the Brian Jonestown Massacre.

"I never thought you'd be a junkie
Because heroin is so passe"
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 9:51 am
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11346 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:53 am to
I would think Heroin by The Velvet Underground would be the ultimate heroin song. I've never done heroin, but it sounds like it would be the perfect soundtrack to a heroin trip.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 11:59 am
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:55 am to
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Needle and the Damage Done. Tribute to Danny Whitten of Crazy Horse.
Neil Young also wrote Tonight's The Night as a tribute to Bruce Berry, a roadie who died of a heroin overdose.
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