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Here's Paul McCartney composing "Get Back" in about 45 seconds
Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:14 pm
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@tedgioia
I’ve never seen anything like this on film before. Paul really has nothing at the 30 second mark—but 45 seconds later he’s got the makings of a hit single.
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:45 pm to rickgrimes
I mean, “Get Back” isn’t a particularly complex song. It’s a simple blues progression with silly lyrics.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:33 am to kingbob
The beauty of “Get Back” isn’t the chord progression, but the insanely good vocal melody.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 9:07 am to Fontainebleau Dr.
Listen to Lennon's lead guitar on it, and then listen to Zeppelin's Celebration Day.
Zeppelin didn't limit their plaguerism to only old dead black guys.
Zeppelin didn't limit their plaguerism to only old dead black guys.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:13 am to rickgrimes
I got chills when this part came up in the documentary.
But it also made me wonder how something seemingly more complex/unique like "Come Together" came together. Did it start with the staccato psychedelic lyrics? Or the iconic heavy bass-line? Or the rolling/cascading drums? It'd be cool to see that hit's genesis.
But it also made me wonder how something seemingly more complex/unique like "Come Together" came together. Did it start with the staccato psychedelic lyrics? Or the iconic heavy bass-line? Or the rolling/cascading drums? It'd be cool to see that hit's genesis.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:02 pm to rickgrimes
George (the real technician of the group) gets it, too, about 15 seconds into Paul's "real" groove. That was pretty amazing to watch, but it is how the collaborative creative process goes. For many groups, it is a lot of misses with just a few hits. In this case, they're not showing you the hours that yield nothing, but rather a couple of minutes that yielded a whole lot.
Some folks could just "do" it. This includes the Beatles and folks like the Bee Gees (wrote the bulk of the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack over a long weekend). For that matter, all the crap that Tool takes that gets vectored towards Maynard as the frontman is blunted when the non-singing members of the band say shite like, "After we get the music done, Maynard just breathes in and exhales the lyrics."
The Beatles was a classic example of "right place, right time, right skill set, right artistic instincts." Any leg of that table missing and the whole thing would have collapsed. Or not been a table to begin with.
Some folks could just "do" it. This includes the Beatles and folks like the Bee Gees (wrote the bulk of the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack over a long weekend). For that matter, all the crap that Tool takes that gets vectored towards Maynard as the frontman is blunted when the non-singing members of the band say shite like, "After we get the music done, Maynard just breathes in and exhales the lyrics."
The Beatles was a classic example of "right place, right time, right skill set, right artistic instincts." Any leg of that table missing and the whole thing would have collapsed. Or not been a table to begin with.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:55 pm to LSUFreek
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It'd be cool to see that hit's genesis.
Come Together started as a campaign slogan for Timothy Leary, who was running for governor of California. His slogan at the time was "Come Together". Lennon had started a song and actually recorded a demo on acoustic the day after recording Give Peace a Chance. Before it could go anywhere, Leary was arrested for marijuana possession and his political career was over.
When he got to the studio for the Abbey Road sessions, he really didn't have much in the way of lyrics. He was a huge Chuck Berry fan, whose song "You Can't Catch Me" has the line "Here come ole flattop / he was moving up with me". McCartney suggested making the song less like a Chuck Berry song and more "swampy".
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:34 pm to Stan Switek
That’s pretty cool. (Of course I’d still like to see it all on film.)
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:55 pm to Ace Midnight
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In this case, they're not showing you the hours that yield nothing, but rather a couple of minutes that yielded a whole lot.
A crucial point that can't be overlooked. It was their massive success that afforded them the TIME to spend in the studio and the freedom to experiment and make what they wanted.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:01 pm to LSUFreek
You'll be able to see more next year at about this time.
There's talk that Giles Martin is teaming up with Jackson to release more of the Get Back sessions.
Also supposedly a lot of stuff from imagine and All Things Must Pass.
There's talk that Giles Martin is teaming up with Jackson to release more of the Get Back sessions.
Also supposedly a lot of stuff from imagine and All Things Must Pass.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 5:52 pm to Damone
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A crucial point that can't be overlooked. It was their massive success that afforded them the TIME to spend in the studio and the freedom to experiment and make what they wanted
This. I have have never been with a band that could afford to spend more than 3 hours at a time experimenting with different ideas, and never in a studio setting. We might get that 3 hours once every week or two. The Beatles earned opportunities to just be together and create for hours and hours at a time for weeks in a row where everything was recorded and could be referenced and recalled. That’s the kind of things musicians dream of.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:48 pm to hogcard1964
quote:If you're going to trot out this tired arse nonsense, at least spell plagerism right.
Zeppelin didn't limit their plaguerism to only old dead black guys.
Why is it so controversial to say white folks came along and took black music and made it better? We did. I love old blues, 30s gypsy jazz, and whatever else you want to throw out there. Bluegrass from the hills of kentucky to swamp blues in the delta.
We turned it into rock and made it better. Led Zeppelin, Cream, whoever you want to name, it's fricking better.
It's literally no different than pointing out that basketball today a game invented by white folks, is a thousand times better because of what blacks did to the game. Do I want to watch a 1950s game of all fundamentals, chest passes, and layups? Or is basketball, or hell football, infinitely better today?
Things evolve. People trying to criticize Led Zeppelin for covering blues tunes is about as fricking lame as it gets. They were the greatest rock band ever. Deal with it.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:06 pm to UKWildcats
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They were the greatest rock band ever. Deal with it
LZ was a great band. Saw them at the Assembly Center in the late 70's. They had maybe 10-12 songs I really liked. In no universe can they be compared to The Beatles.What did Plant or Page do after LZ broke up? Lennon, McCartney & Harrison all had #1's in their solo careers. Even Starr had 2 #1 singles. I love LZ and would say they are probably the best Hard Rock band but they can't touch The Beatles.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:09 pm to TexTigah81
The Beatles were more creative and put out a lot more content and a lot more varied content both as a band and as solo acts. I enjoy Led Zeppelin’s music much more than the Beatles.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:10 pm to TexTigah81
quote:I think it's kind of subjective. The Beatles are phenomenal. I'm not going to denigrate them in order to prop up my Zeppelin opinion.
LZ was a great band. Saw them at the Assembly Center in the late 70's. They had maybe 10-12 songs I really liked. In no universe can they be compared to The Beatles.What did Plant or Page do after LZ broke up? Lennon, McCartney & Harrison all had #1's in their solo careers. Even Starr had 2 #1 singles. I love LZ and would say they are probably the beat Hard Rock band but they can't touch The Beatles.
I think you hit it right if you divide it between hard rock and pop rock...? Eh? I dunno...we're talking about two great entities. I really like the Beatles but I'm a guy who goes Stones first haha. To me, Zeppelin is the greatest when you factor in everything. But I'm not gonna sit here and try to badmouth the Beatles. They were a brilliant flash in the pan that should have lasted longer. 70's Beatles with Lennon and McCartney.....you know some gems went unwritten that the world is worse off for having never received.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:18 am to UKWildcats
There's a big difference than "covering blues tunes" and being sued and forced to give credit to the musicians they ripped off.
No Beatles=No Stones=No Who=No Yardbirds=No Zeppelin
No Beatles=No Stones=No Who=No Yardbirds=No Zeppelin
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:08 am to UKWildcats
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If you're going to trot out this tired arse nonsense, at least spell plagerism right.
so close...
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:15 am to UKWildcats
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flash in the pan
A flash in the pan that still being talked about and is still relevant almost 60 years later. Quite the flash
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