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Posted on 12/23/19 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 6:18 pm
My wife and I were listening to some live recordings of the Beatles tonight and while listening to Revolution (very similar to the single release) she asked why the guitar was so distorted. Since neither of us is a huge Beatles fan (more Stones and The Who from that era) I wasn't sure if she was asking how or why, turns out she was asking why in that she had never noticed it and wondered if it was an issue with this recording.
With that cleared up it hit me about the how. I know the studio version is a famous straight to desk recording with overload. I can see how it could be duplicated fairly easily in the digital realm but wondering how they did it live in the analog days. Anyone have any insights?
I could ask at gearslutz etc but don't want to get mired in minutia.
With that cleared up it hit me about the how. I know the studio version is a famous straight to desk recording with overload. I can see how it could be duplicated fairly easily in the digital realm but wondering how they did it live in the analog days. Anyone have any insights?
I could ask at gearslutz etc but don't want to get mired in minutia.
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:24 pm to Obtuse1
Most likely a Maestro Fuzz-tone pedal, or possibly a Fuzzface.
Those were the common distortion stomp boxes back then.
Those were the common distortion stomp boxes back then.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:29 pm to Obtuse1
If you're talking about the promos for David Frost, I believe the instruments were not live. George Martin had made rough audio mixes for both Revolution and Hey Jude without vocal tracks, which were then performed "live".
Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:34 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:00 pm to Obtuse1
Lennon and Harrison plugged directly into the mixing board and the engineer cranked the levels up on the channels they were plugged into. Basically it would be like cranking your stero until the speakers started distorting. And Lennon tired to crank his amp to get the distortion but it wasn't to his liking . If I recall, the vocals were distorted and done the same way
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:03 pm to Obtuse1
The truth is that the Beatles were producing the punk sound at least a decade before punk even became a thing. Choppy, distorted guitars, with lyrics that echo the political and social anxieties of the time. Revolution isn’t a punk song in the technical sense, but it is still very much a punk song.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:22 pm to DyeHardDylan
quote:The Shadows of Knight - "I'm gonna make you mine" (1966)
The truth is that the Beatles were producing the punk sound at least a decade before punk even became a thing
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:38 pm to Stan Switek
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If you're talking about the promos for David Frost, I believe the instruments were not live. George Martin had made rough audio mixes for both Revolution and Hey Jude without vocal tracks, which were then performed "live".
That is a good call and I think the answer, the distortion was thicker than I have ever heard from a single analog box (I was thinking maybe they were ganged) but it looks what we were listening to was indeed the studio straight to desk recording of the guitars with the vocals live to get around the lip synch rules of the day.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:56 pm to Zappas Stache
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Lennon and Harrison plugged directly into the mixing board and the engineer cranked the levels up on the channels they were plugged into.
That's what I was saying about the studio version. It is probably the most famous straight to deck recording of all time. Chances are they ran them through more than one channel with each running in overload. The clipping of the waveform is the entire basis behind overload, distortion and fuzz boxes.
I was just curious how they replicated the overloaded straight to deck sound outside the studio.
The tone is just wild, it is the opposite of a "house curve" in the old graphic equalizer era, the low treble is boosted and the bass, mid, and high treble are attenuated "making a frowny face".
Also, note I am specifically talking about the single version (Hey Jude b-side) of Revolution not any of the numbered versions. Revolution 1 is the slower version on the White Album but has very little distortion relative to the single version.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 8:09 am to Obtuse1
When The Beatles Manager Kit Lambert died in 67',they never toured again.
As far as I know,the Rooftop gig was the only Show they did.
Every Album they put out was Studio.
The Who were made to play live.Not The Beatles.
As far as I know,the Rooftop gig was the only Show they did.
Every Album they put out was Studio.
The Who were made to play live.Not The Beatles.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 8:22 pm to Zappas Stache
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Lennon and Harrison plugged directly into the mixing board and the engineer cranked the levels up on the channels they were plugged into. Basically it would be like cranking your stero until the speakers started distorting. And Lennon tired to crank his amp to get the distortion but it wasn't to his liking . If I recall, the vocals were distorted and done the same wa
This^^^^ was my guess.
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