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re: Drummer Talk: setups & hardware discussion/questions
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:30 am to Drummin Fool
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:30 am to Drummin Fool
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If you are playing rock or metal you would probably not like this type of snare sound
I've always preferred a non-muffled, wide-open drum sound, too.
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you have to make sure everything is well-tuned
Indeed. I've always been obsessive about tuning any kit I've ever played (even club or church kits that don't belong to me). I can't count the number of times when I'd show up, begin making adjustments to the kit, and be utterly floored at how poorly the kit was tuned.
Churches are, by far, the worst offenders: Ancient, pulverized drum heads further deadened by studio rings, snare drums covered in duct tape, kick drums stuffed with quilts and blankets. I take great pleasure in removing all of that crap and properly tuning each drum.
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:45 am to Oswald
I might have to try that shite with finishing the interiors. Mine are still as they came...still sound great though. Perhaps I could make them better using your finishing method.
I have a White Marine Pearl Catalina Maple kit:
18x18 bass drum
12x12 mount tom
14x14 floor tom
14x6.5 Ludwig Steel Supraphonic snare
10x5 Mapex snare (left side of hi-hat)-tight little sombitch
6" and 8" mini-timbales
(1) large cowbell
You ARE a lucky fukkur aren't you?
I am moving to a new place in about a month and my neighbors are about 40 feet away on both sides. We will see how it goes breaking in another set.
I have a White Marine Pearl Catalina Maple kit:
18x18 bass drum
12x12 mount tom
14x14 floor tom
14x6.5 Ludwig Steel Supraphonic snare
10x5 Mapex snare (left side of hi-hat)-tight little sombitch
6" and 8" mini-timbales
(1) large cowbell
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Closest one will be about 1/4 mile away
You ARE a lucky fukkur aren't you?
I am moving to a new place in about a month and my neighbors are about 40 feet away on both sides. We will see how it goes breaking in another set.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:51 am to Drummin Fool
I'll be getting my new kit in the next few months. I decided on a Yamaha Club Custom. The guy that helped me order it helped me get a great deal on it. I am excite.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 12:54 pm to Drummin Fool
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I might have to try that shite with finishing the interiors. Mine are still as they came...still sound great though. Perhaps I could make them better using your finishing method.
I have a White Marine Pearl Catalina Maple kit:
I highly recommend it. It is fairly easy, but pretty tedious and time consuming.
-Remove everything from the shells. I left the vent grommets but tape them off before you apply the oil. If any oil gets on them wipe it off IMMEDIATELY or it'll get sticky.
-Sand the inside down with medium pressure with 400-grit sandpaper. You don't want to take off a ton. You'll see the factory finishing coming off, that's all you want to do.
-Wipe out the dust with a damp cloth.
-Repeat with 600 grit. Wipe it out.
-Repeat with the FINEST steel wool you can get (000 or 0000). Wipe it out.
-Let the shells 'air out' overnight.
-Wipe down again with some tack cloth. Make sure there is no residue on the inside of the shell.
-Get some teak oil and some cheese cloth and put a very light coat all inside. Avoid using too much and avoid the bearing edges.
-Let the coat dry for an hour or two then put another one on. You want 3-5 light coats. I did 5.
-Let it dry out until it is totally dry to the touch. No sticky. As long as it is totally cured and absorbed, you can take a damp piece of steel wool and lightly finish the oil coat. This part isn't necessary but I did it to knock off any excess.
After that, I didn't have time to mess with them for a few days so the inside was good and cured. You don't HAVE to do it, but I put one final light coat. Once the inside is bone dry you can start re-assembling everything.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 12:55 pm to Oswald
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I've always preferred a non-muffled, wide-open drum sound, too
It is a thing of beauty. I love the sound of mine when they're dialed in just right. Slightly looser than average batter and higher than average reso. When you hit that sweet spot tuning...
This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:04 pm to Srbtiger06
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Yamaha Club Custom
Damn nice kit too! You will enjoy.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:07 pm to Srbtiger06
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I love the sound of mine when they're dialed in just right. Slightly looser than average batter and higher than average top. When you hit that sweet spot tuning.
You are right. Tuning is everything. I can't tell you how many times I have seen people try to compensate for poor-tuning by muffling everything. Might as well play on cardboard boxes stuffed with pillows. A drum's gotta sing.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:08 pm to Drummin Fool
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Damn nice kit too! You will enjoy.
Agreed. I want a Gretsch USA Custom but I don't think I'll ever have that kind of money or ability to justify it
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:21 pm to Srbtiger06
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Gretsch USA Custom
Droool...
I know what you mean. I might get one when I hit my "mid-life crisis", which should happen about 15 years from now. That may be a legit justification, right?
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:22 pm to Srbtiger06
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sweet spot
As you guys all know, every drum has its own unique sweet spot and, when ya find it, it makes ya feel 10-feet tall and bulletproof...
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Slightly looser than average batter and higher than average top
My ears have always been happiest when the resonant heads on my toms and my kick drum are about a half-step higher in pitch than the batters. Except for my snare drums; I've always tuned the batter and the reso to the same pitch. Now that I've been doing it taht way so long, I think I might be too scared to try something different.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:31 pm to Drummin Fool
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mid-life crisis
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legit justification, right?
Abso-freaking-lutely.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:58 pm to Oswald
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My ears have always been happiest when the resonant heads on my toms and my kick drum are about a half-step higher in pitch than the batters
Yeah that's what I meant. I don't know why I put 'top'.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 5:21 pm to Srbtiger06
I almost got the USA custom. This guy is a Gretsch and Yamaha dealer. I thought they both had their own great unique sound, so I ended up deciding on the Club Custom for the swirl paint job.
I ordered a virgin 24x15 bass
13x9
16x15
I guess my DW Bass drum is up for sale if anyone here wants one.
I ordered a virgin 24x15 bass
13x9
16x15
I guess my DW Bass drum is up for sale if anyone here wants one.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 9:27 am to The Dudes Rug
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I ordered a virgin 24x15 bass
I have such a love/hate relationship with big kicks. I love the sound but I hate how complicated they make things. I can't get my 10 and 12 toms positioned just right due to the height. Then once I do, I can't get my ride low enough. Then when I do that, it gets in the way of my floor toms. I finally started playing with my 16x16 to my left. It was weird getting used to but now I like it. It feels like I'm in my own little drum cubby hole
Posted on 8/10/13 at 6:49 pm to The Dudes Rug
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The Dude's Rug
Nice Yamaha kit, Dude! Very nice!
Yamaha is probably my second favorite drums behind Gretsch.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:45 am to Drummin Fool
Just snagged a 9x13 Gretsch USA Custom Maple shell off ebay for $35. Doesn't have edges cut but I've done my own before and it came out really well. Going to sand this baby down and stain it to match my kit. 
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