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re: Do you consider it lazy when a band uses proper nouns in lyrics?

Posted on 8/29/14 at 11:23 am to
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 11:23 am to
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so, a songwriter should use fictional cities,dates,people and such?

A true songwriter? yes

Otherwise, you're not creating material. You're just listing observations, and that is lazy.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 11:27 am to
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The same applies to women's names in songs. Mandy? Yeah, that's a real person (it's a lot of real people actually). Nothing original about it. Like the OP said, just lazy.



If you liked Blortik by Ray Charles, you'll love Anglanon by the Rolling Stones.


ETA:

quote:

A true songwriter? yes

Do you have one example of this happening?
This post was edited on 8/29/14 at 11:29 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 11:29 am to
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It's just too easy, they don't come up with their own shite. It's like when "fiction" writers use real places as their setting. Colorado is a real place, there's nothing fiction about it. And yet Stephen King still has the balls to call The Shining fiction. It's just unoriginal.

This doesn't make any sense.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 11:30 am to
Thought you'd never ask:

LINK
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 11:31 am to
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This doesn't make any sense.


Neither does the OP. Honestly, this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen on this board.
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 11:55 am to
When bands use contractions it is lazy.

Journey's song should be: Do Not Stop Believing
Traffic: I can not find my way home

Just plain lazy
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Thought you'd never ask:

LINK



The concept of being knocked down was already in existence. That's a lazy arse song. And all the words already existed except for the name of the song. The OP was asking about lyrics.

I'd guess Hanson's mmBOP is what you would consider the pinnacle of creativity.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:17 pm to
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Neither does the OP. Honestly, this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen on this board.



You're the one arguing its merits. So what does that make you?
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:22 pm to
LucasP is right, thank god someone finally said it
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:27 pm to
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The concept of being knocked down was already in existence.


I stand corrected, I'm not too proud to admit that I was wrong.

quote:

I'd guess Hanson's mmBOP is what you would consider the pinnacle of creativity.



Not sure about pinnacle, but it's up there.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:32 pm to
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I stand corrected, I'm not too proud to admit that I was wrong.

You're one of the good ones.

quote:

Not sure about pinnacle, but it's up there.




this just became one of my favorite threads on the music board
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 1:32 pm to
..Anyone still like November Rain?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Journey's song should be: Do Not Stop Believing
Traffic: I can not find my way home

Or worse, the contraction plus the made up word:

Baby I am going to want you
Baby I am going to need you
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 4:00 pm to
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quote:
So they should make up a new calendar and then use those made up months in their songs?



It's better than using the same old months that everyone already knows.



Wat? So they should just start making up random words for months and days? Why the frick does that matter? They arent allowed to write songs about real places or things?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 4:17 pm to
Since Mordor doesn't really exist, what kind of grade does Led Zeppelin get for that?
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 4:22 pm to
Or Phish's Caspian.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 4:51 pm to
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Since Mordor doesn't really exist, what kind of grade does Led Zeppelin get for that? 



Zeppelin: D-
Tolkien: D+

Hobbits are essentially midgets and those have existed for decades so it's not really original.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 4:54 pm to
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No but when they write a song about what it's like to be in a band then I do consider that to be lazy.


Or how tough it is on the road.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 7:11 pm to
turn the page is a great song
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 7:18 pm to
a few songs maybe the OP might like.

Swing town
Funky Town
the twelfth of never
paradise city
crazy town
This post was edited on 8/29/14 at 7:28 pm
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