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re: any opinions on fender's champion 100 amp?

Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:16 pm to
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I like to have the option of a good hard rock "crunch" (think Zeppelin, The Who, ect) but I also want the flexibility to be able to play smooth and clean. An added included pedal channel-shifter would be a nice plus


Then the Marshall DSL40C that I posted above is where it's at.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:19 pm to
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A watt is a watt. The main differences between a tube and solid state amp are in what happens when they go into clipping.

When a tube amp "breaks up" it's pleasant to the ears. When a SS amp clips, it sounds like absolute shite.

Yes absolutely. Someone told me one time not to think of a guitar amp as a "tone preserver" like a stereo amp. In reality it's a tone generator along with the pickups, the pedals and everything else in the signal chain.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:22 pm to
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Then the Marshall DSL40C that I posted above is where it's at.

This is a good recommendation. I have an older JCM2000 DSL401 and it's got a great tone and plenty of power. The DSL40C is just a newer version of that one.
Posted by Geert Hammink_43
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:05 pm to
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I literally don't know a single guitar player in a band that plays a solid state amp



Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:46 pm to
ok? I don't know him.

and he's old and lazy at this point who doesn't want to deal with maintenance of a tube amp.
Posted by Geert Hammink_43
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:18 am to
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and he's old and lazy at this point who doesn't want to deal with maintenance of a tube amp.

yeah. it has nothing to do with the tone he's able to get.
laziness and having to deal with maintenance is a non factor when you're b.b. king.
ty tabor of king's x used that same amp. was he too old and lazy?

before his death, dime bag Darrel used solid state randalls.

If you are good enough, you will sound good through either one.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:50 am to
are you really defending solid state amps? I mean they work fine as a practice amp but I can't take any guitarist seriously if they are playing anything other than a tube amp.
Posted by PPL
Member since Nov 2010
447 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:02 am to
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are you really defending solid state amps? I mean they work fine as a practice amp but I can't take any guitarist seriously if they are playing anything other than a tube amp.


I, too, am a tube amp elitist, but this is fricking asinine. I like to bust people's balls when I hear them talking about playing a solid state amp, but in reality, I know that the player makes the gear, and not the other way around. I can't take anyone seriously that would run down B.B. fricking King.

Give Marc Ford a B.C. Rich and a Danelectro mini-amp and give me a '65 ES-335 and a plexi and Marc is still gonna run me off the stage every fricking time. It is what it is.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:06 am to
talent is talent. but tube amps are just better than solid state amps and there's no intelligent person that would debate otherwise
Posted by PPL
Member since Nov 2010
447 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:19 am to
The amp is just a tool. They each have their applications.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6849 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:53 pm to
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are you really defending solid state amps? I mean they work fine as a practice amp but I can't take any guitarist seriously if they are playing anything other than a tube amp.
Jonny Greenwood uses (or at least used to use) a solid state Fender Eighty-Five.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:37 pm to
he uses a lot of different amps.. AC30's and fender tube amps along with that fender 85 in the chain

LINK
here's jonny greenwood's setup from 2008:



from 1997:

This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 8:43 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14958 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 9:23 pm to
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here's jonny greenwood's setup from 2008:

That's pretty unusual putting a reverb/delay at the beginning of the signal chain.
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