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re: Any .38 Special fans?
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:07 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:07 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
I was at that same show with them opening for Jefferson Starship. I agree completely with your takes.
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:18 pm to jdd48
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I personally love the ballad "Second Chance". The guitar fills in that song are awesome.
Me too. The great Max Carl on vocal.
Carl is fronting Grand Funk Railroad which is a dirty shame with Mark Farner still out there.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 1:52 pm to A12 Oxcart
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most people don't realize they owe some of their biggest success to Peterik.
Peterik actually taught them how write. Before, by their own admission, they tried to write complicated music whereas Peterik taught them, tick, tick, tick.
I've seen them a few times and they're always good.
Donnie is no longer with them, at least touring, bc of hearing issues.
Don Barnes is the last original left.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 2:21 pm to Lee B
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It's Don Barnes, the guitarist who ended up singing the hits back in the day, who might be in his 70s but seems to be in good shape from some vids I saw a while back.
He'll be 73 in December. Because of how big the Van Zant name was, a lot of casual fans mistakenly thought DVZ was singing a lot of those hits back in the day. While he did carry the load during those pre-mainstream albums, and did a lot of background singing (and lead on many album tracks), nearly every big hit of .38 Special was sung by Don Barnes. I guess the only "exceptions" were Peterik's Wild-Eyed Southern Boys, technically a co-lead between Barnes and Van Zant (unless I'm mistaken - they're both credited with lead vocals on the track) and their last real hit, Second Chance (from 1988's Rock & Roll Strategy) sung by newcomer Max Carl.
The current version of the band is really a "Don Barnes and friends present an evening with the music of .38 Special" situation. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, Bobby Capps is in the band and he was a touring member all the way back to the Rock & Roll Strategy era, but he did not contribute as a performer to any recording classic fans would be aware of. I think he would have to have DVZ or Carlisi, at a minimum, to even pretend this is actually .38 Special.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 7/23/25 at 2:29 pm to Lee B
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It's Don Barnes, the guitarist who ended up singing the hits back in the day
He was the "sound" of the band without a doubt. I saw them a few times back in their prime and they always delivered. Two drummers......
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 7/23/25 at 2:41 pm to Ace Midnight
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The current version of the band is really a "Don Barnes and friends present an evening with the music of .38 Special" situation. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, Bobby Capps is in the band and he was a touring member all the way back to the Rock & Roll Strategy era, but he did not contribute as a performer to any recording classic fans would be aware of. I think he would have to have DVZ or Carlisi, at a minimum, to even pretend this is actually .38 Special.
the current touring versions of Molly Hatchet and The Little River Band have no original members. LRB is led by the American singer bassist who sang "Night Owls," their last hit, and the rest of the band is American guys (the LRB was Australian). All of the members of Molly Hatchet in the recording years have died.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 7/23/25 at 2:44 pm to Lee B
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the current touring versions of Molly Hatchet and The Little River Band have no original members. LRB is led by the American singer bassist who sang "Night Owls," their last hit, and the rest of the band is American guys (the LRB was Australian). All of the members of Molly Hatchet in the recording years have died.
I don't consider them at all. This one at least has Don Barnes. I probably wouldn't pay to see it, but it is better than literally no one.
(ETA: I wouldn't pay to see Henley, Walsh and Schmidt, either. I paid decent money - for the day - for bad seats to see the Hell Freezes Over tour. Melissa Etheridge opened
)This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 7/23/25 at 3:15 pm to Ace Midnight
These bands have just evolved until you have what they are now.
Take Bobby Ingram from Hatchet, he's been in the band since the mid 80s; longer than anyone ever in Hatchet. He owns the name, trademark, etc. Despite what people think, he bought it from Duane Roland who "inherited" all of it because he was the "last man standing". The original guys set it up so whoever was the last man standing (without having left and came back) would own everything and that was Duane. Some of the original guys could have come back even after Duane sold it off but didn't.
There was a lot of infighting which was why Danny Joe left after the Flirtin' album. He came back because of $$$$. Banner Thomas didn't want to be in the same room as Duane. Bruce left and came back dozens of times. Dave was fired bc of drug use (Bobby replaced him).
Anyway all of our classic rockers are dying and right, wrong or indifferent, we're left with replacement players.
Take Bobby Ingram from Hatchet, he's been in the band since the mid 80s; longer than anyone ever in Hatchet. He owns the name, trademark, etc. Despite what people think, he bought it from Duane Roland who "inherited" all of it because he was the "last man standing". The original guys set it up so whoever was the last man standing (without having left and came back) would own everything and that was Duane. Some of the original guys could have come back even after Duane sold it off but didn't.
There was a lot of infighting which was why Danny Joe left after the Flirtin' album. He came back because of $$$$. Banner Thomas didn't want to be in the same room as Duane. Bruce left and came back dozens of times. Dave was fired bc of drug use (Bobby replaced him).
Anyway all of our classic rockers are dying and right, wrong or indifferent, we're left with replacement players.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:12 pm to Ace Midnight
First Time Around shows Barnes soloing all over the song. Sang the big hits, but the dude can get after it on guitar. Carlisi was great too.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 6:45 am to morganwadefan
I remember being in school when a older student pulled in the parking lot blasting "Rockin' Into The Night." I didn't know who that band was, but I had to get that damned tape.
Later wore out a copy of Wild-Eyed Southern Boys. It would be interesting to play it now and see if the album tracks come back to me.
Interest faded after that, but I did go see them at NLU/ULM Ewing Coliseum in the mid-late 80s.
Later wore out a copy of Wild-Eyed Southern Boys. It would be interesting to play it now and see if the album tracks come back to me.
Interest faded after that, but I did go see them at NLU/ULM Ewing Coliseum in the mid-late 80s.
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