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re: Why Snape Cannot Be Black

Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:10 pm to
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I honestly do not see the difference.

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Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:16 am to
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Ah, I differ here in that I do trust HBO.


Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:23 am to
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you've already proven this is about more than Snape casting to you because you are in a culture war.


Recasting historical white characters with black actors is the culture war YOU are defending.

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You are trying to make this one casting decision part of something bigger


You're just going to pretend "woke" didnt' exist?

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it isn't about ME because I've never ruined any TV shows


You sure are bending over backwards to defend such an obvious attempt at race swapping to pretend like it doesn't matter. In this particular instance, it does. You are playing like you're just an ignorant retard who doesn't understand the problem, but you damn well know the problem. Your defense is now, "i didn't make the movie" but in the same breathe defend HBO and how much you trust them knowing their history.

Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:37 am to
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Changing race is no different than changing age which they already did wit snape.


Be careful, you're going to pull a muscle reaching this far.

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If you think it makes scenes that werent written as racist become racist thats on you


It's been described to you in detail of exactly the reason why this is a problem by people of all races in this thread. You know exactly why it will turn out bad. You're just trying to pretend you're above it all, meanwhile you are insinuating anyone that has a problem with this character swapping races, is racist. Quite the hypocrisy you're throwing out here.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:41 am to
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Which apparently Rowling is ok with since she's pretty heavily involved in these things. If she thinks those are the changes that need to happen for the series, it's not really my place to say how her content should be handled.


This is false. She's been widely criticized for the films not staying true to the books. Dumbledore all of a sudden being gay so they can make the Grindelwald series. And this failure of a scene.


Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:54 am to
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This is false. She's been widely criticized for the films not staying true to the books. Dumbledore all of a sudden being gay so they can make the Grindelwald series. And this failure of a scene.


I’m talking specifically about the casting for this show.

But if we want to use historical comments by her, she openly supported the Black casting of Hermione in the Cursed Child.

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Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:56 am to
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But if we want to use historical comments by her, she openly supported the Black casting of Hermione in the Cursed Child.


and as stated earlier, Hermione being cast as black is much less consequential than snape, and most would be ok with it, outside of her constantly being called a mudblood and what that might infer.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:13 am to
Hermione's race is to my knowledge never specifically described in the printed word.

Snape's is like 1000 times
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:55 am to
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alled a mudblood and what that might infer.


Imply. But as the term is specifically defined in both book and movie, there could be no racial implication or inference, and to infer racial connotations after it's made perfectly clear what the term means would be obtuse.

As for the Snape race swap. Some of the concerns in the OP aren't invalid. This could be used as a vessel to create unneeded racial undertones, but it doesn't specifically have to happen. But I can't argue that there will be some people who will choose to infer them.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:57 am to
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Hermione's race is to my knowledge never specifically described in the printed word.

Snape's is like 1000 times


It certainly is heavily implied. I don't think anyone has ever referred to a black person as sallow skinned. But playing Devil's advocate I suppose it could be possible.
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