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re: Val Kilmer was an underrated Batman. I think he would have done awesome under a Nolan type

Posted on 2/15/25 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by JS87
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 8:37 pm to
I love Batman Forever.

Seal - Kiss from a Rose, Jim Carrey in his prime, smoke show Kidman, etc.

It just brings back such nostalgic memories of the 90’s and those awesome McDonalds mugs with each of the characters on it.
Posted by Big Fat Guy
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:04 pm to
Off-topic but Batman Returns is wild. Some of the stuff that made it into that movie is surprising even for the 1990s.

Some pretty overt BDSM / dominatrix themes in scenes between Catwoman and the Penguin. The leather and the whip. They didn't make Burton tone it down at all.

And otherwise pretty dark fare and graphic violence for a movie marketed to kids.

Might be my favorite, though. Love the winter setting and Pfeiffer is the GOAT Catwoman.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:11 pm to
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the soundtrack is awesome


The Batman theme that Danny Elfman composed for '89 and Returns is obviously iconic, but you can't tell me the main title theme composed by Elliot Goldenthal for Batman Forever wasn't bad arse in its own right:



Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:22 pm to
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And otherwise pretty dark fare and graphic violence for a movie marketed to kids.


The movie poster puzzle for Batman Returns was hard as frick.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 5:51 pm to
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I think the perception of this movie gets hurt because of Batman & Robin. This is a fun comic book movie. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Forever was all over the place. At times it was as dark and atmospheric as the Burton films, but at times it was almost as gaudy and cartoonish as B&R. Lots of neon and blacklight stuff. It's not near as bad as B&R but I think a lot of you are misremembering how goofy some of it was
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 5:55 pm
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 5:57 pm to
Val was the best Bruce Wayne of that original run of Batman. He was ideal for that role. Keaton was the best Batman because he had that crazy look in his eyes.

Batman Forever suffers because Tommy Lee Jones is terribly miscast as Two Face and his character has no depth at all throughout the film. Jim Carey kills it as the Riddler and really carries the movie as the villain.

If it hadn’t tried to hard to shoehorn in Robin, and been more like the darker Batman Returns, the movie would be a 90s classic instead of an in between.
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 6:57 pm to
Agree completely with everything you just said.
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by Neutral Underground
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 7:09 pm to
1. Michael Keaton
2. Christian Bale
3. Ben Affleck
4. Val Kilmer
5. The Dude from Twilight
6. George Clooney

Excluding the TV actor
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 7:15 pm to
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5. The Dude from Twilight


100% disagree. I thought Pattinson was excellent as a younger take on Bruce Wayne/Batman. I'd put him #2 behind Bale. Keaton has just never done it as Batman for me. It isn't his acting, he just doesn't look the part.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:23 pm to
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Keaton has just never done it as Batman for me. It isn't his acting, he just doesn't look the part.

I actually agree. Only Clooney was worse IMO.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:58 pm to
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Keaton has just never done it as Batman for me. It isn't his acting, he just doesn't look the part.

I agree that he didn't quite fit the Bruce Wayne mold, but I thought he looked perfect in the cowl
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:12 pm to
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The bat suit had nipples man. It had nipples!!!


No. That was Clooney.

ETA. Never mind. It was Kilmer. Could have sworn it was Clooney.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:16 pm to
that Batman creator Bob Kane cited Val Kilmer's performance in "Batman Forever" as his favorite interpretation of the character.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:18 pm to
Affleck
Keaton
Kilmer
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