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Us - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:18 am
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:18 am
May as well get this started while I’m bored at work waiting for the Tennessee game.
So thoughts?
I definitely enjoyed myself, and I’m not a big horror movie guy. I actually liked it even more 10-15 minutes after seeing it when a few things started to click.
So thoughts?
I definitely enjoyed myself, and I’m not a big horror movie guy. I actually liked it even more 10-15 minutes after seeing it when a few things started to click.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:24 am to ohiovol
Was that ending really necessary?
That was my thought as I was walking out of the theater.
That was my thought as I was walking out of the theater.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:27 am to Decatur
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Was that ending really necessary?
That was my thought as I was walking out of the theater.
The twist?
It explains why her double could talk and why she initially could not following the incident in the beginning. It also explains why she always felt like her double was coming for her.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 11:29 am
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:51 am to ohiovol
It seemed kinda like an unnecessary throw-in at the end.
So Lupita’s character has been putting on a play her whole life? Why wasn’t she always evil like the rest of the underground doubles?
I’m sure Peele is going for something deeper but I can’t put my finger on it. There’s a lot of it I don’t think I understand.
So Lupita’s character has been putting on a play her whole life? Why wasn’t she always evil like the rest of the underground doubles?
I’m sure Peele is going for something deeper but I can’t put my finger on it. There’s a lot of it I don’t think I understand.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 11:59 am to ohiovol
I liked it.
The original Lupita got trapped in the mirror room by the clone, and the clone then went on to live the life that should have been the originals.
The original Lupita got trapped in the mirror room by the clone, and the clone then went on to live the life that should have been the originals.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:10 pm to lsutigersFTW
So why was she talking so weird? It's not like she had a speech problem before she got trapped
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:11 pm to Decatur
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It seemed kinda like an unnecessary throw-in at the end.
So Lupita’s character has been putting on a play her whole life? Why wasn’t she always evil like the rest of the underground doubles?
I’m sure Peele is going for something deeper but I can’t put my finger on it. There’s a lot of it I don’t think I understand.
They weren't evil. Lupita was like God to them (because she could talk), so she convinced them that their others were the evil ones. In the end though, they wanted the promises that Hands Across America showcased.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:12 pm to dawgfan24348
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So why was she talking so weird? It's not like she had a speech problem before she got trapped
Her double choked her and ruined her vocal cords.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:14 pm to ATrillionaire
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ruined her vocal cords.
Dummy me didn’t consider that.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:25 pm to Decatur
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Was that ending really necessary?
Obviously the twist at the end is going to divide people, but I think it's important to understand why it was done. This wasn't an M Night Shyamalan twist for the sake of it.
The twist was critical to the story. Without it, there is no depth to the story.
The hidden subtext of Get Out is that white progressives carry their own brand of racism, different from white conservatives.
What’s the hidden subtext to US?
It’s that those we think of as our enemies are really just…us. They may be disaffected, they may not be as privileged, but they are still people. They are, as Adelaide’s Red Character calls her people, “Americans.” This isn’t a black vs white thing, either: Since the movie has a hilarious and riveting sequence showing the “other” versions of the family’s white friends. Anyone can be disaffected.
The point here is that there are a lot of “us” in our society that we have chosen not to see. They live in slums, sleep under cardboard, and beg for scraps. But they are us. They’re not some other people. They’re not our enemies, at least not inherently.
The message of the movie is: We shouldn’t divide ourselves into groups because we are all people. If the Adelaide character who torments the family in the movie was just another subterranean monster then the movie is just an “us” vs “them” story. Instead, a person who lived down there switched places and spent most of her life “up here.” She learned to talk, to laugh, to love. She proved that if everyone had the same chance to live as she did, everyone could be just as happy as she is.
That’s what’s so amazing about the movie: For 99% of it, you’re conditioned to think of the red-clad people as the bad guys, but the whole premise of the movie is false (on purpose). Those “bad guys” are doing bad things but the people aren’t bad, inherently; they’re bad because they were brought up that way, raised to be bitter and resentful against those who had it easy. The film’s use of the cheesy Hands Across America gimmick highlights that idea: A bunch of privileged people held hands one afternoon to “raise awareness” for underprivileged people. And after they were done holding hands, they went back to their nice homes and comfortable lives…and forgot that everyone else still had problems.
That’s a hard truth to think about, but it’s a truth nonetheless, and it's what Peele is telling us with the movie.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:29 pm to ATrillionaire
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Her double choked her and ruined her vocal cords.
Yep, Red’s speech slowly developed during the film. During the fireplace scene she barely spoke. Adelaide did the majority of talking in that scene. Fast forward to the scene in the classroom. Red’s vocals are marginally improved. But she still gets her point.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:33 pm to JBeam
spot on JBeam
I agree 100%
Basically we all have the same hopes and dreams, and given equal opportunity (class-ism), we may all be able to obtain them.
Also, the downtrodden may not get a fair shot or upper hand without first handicapping the more fortunate (lupita's handcuffs, the husband's leg, etc..)
...and even people who seem to have a great life still feel less than in the presence of people with more (husband jealous of his friend's boat and car)
I agree 100%
Basically we all have the same hopes and dreams, and given equal opportunity (class-ism), we may all be able to obtain them.
Also, the downtrodden may not get a fair shot or upper hand without first handicapping the more fortunate (lupita's handcuffs, the husband's leg, etc..)
...and even people who seem to have a great life still feel less than in the presence of people with more (husband jealous of his friend's boat and car)
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:48 pm to ATrillionaire
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They weren't evil. Lupita was like God to them (because she could talk), so she convinced them that their others were the evil ones. In the end though, they wanted the promises that Hands Across America showcased.
I enjoyed it. I didn't find it all that scary, but it was well made. The political subtext was subtle enough that it didn't ruin the story, but it was still plain enough to see, exactly as Peele did in Get Out. The plot hole that I couldn't get past was that, if the doubles were the result of a failed genetic experiment, then how come the originals didn't realize they had been cloned? As shown at the end, there were hundreds of doubles underground.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 12:52 pm to ohiovol
From reading this thread it sounds a lot like the Starz show ‘Counterpart’.
Posted on 3/22/19 at 2:13 pm to JBeam
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JBeam
This is probably the best analysis I've seen of it, so far.
Kudos.
Posted on 3/23/19 at 9:13 pm to ohiovol
I just got out. Personally I thought it sucked. Not just bad, but sucked. I loved Get Out, but this whole storyline was just dumb. A bunch of clones living underground eating raw rabbits? GTFO
This post was edited on 3/23/19 at 9:20 pm
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