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There's a whole lot of Walter White in the character Barry Block (Spoils)
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:56 pm
The final 10 minutes of Barry's season finale were soemthing straight out of Breaking Bad.
The police discovery to Barry's delusions that he's actually a good person and justifying all of his murders. It was extremely high level TV... But Barry, in many ways is far more sinister than White.
1: he's legitemetly a killing machine and badass, unlike white who gradually became a killer...and 2: he's already killed his Marine brother and best friend, and a high level police detective...and that's only season 1
The police discovery to Barry's delusions that he's actually a good person and justifying all of his murders. It was extremely high level TV... But Barry, in many ways is far more sinister than White.
1: he's legitemetly a killing machine and badass, unlike white who gradually became a killer...and 2: he's already killed his Marine brother and best friend, and a high level police detective...and that's only season 1
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 7:57 pm
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:19 pm to Jack Ruby
I describe it as a mix of Silicon humor mixed with Dexter and Breaking Bad to people who haven’t seen it.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:23 pm to Jack Ruby
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The final 10 minutes of Barry's season finale were soemthing straight out of Breaking Bad.
It actually played like a straight workplace sitcom (although some of the acting was very good - certainly as good as Silicon Valley, Hader, Root, the Chechens, Fonzie, even the cops were spot on) until the last 2 episodes. It's actually dark now - almost too dark. Done well enough that I'm excited to see what they can do with Season 2 - with that kind of turn, I can't see it hanging on 5 or 6 seasons, but if we get a solid, 4 season run comparable to what we've seen so far - I'm in.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:32 pm to Ace Midnight
Hell I'd be happy with 3...half the characters have already been killed off by Barry. Fuchs is going to be sad, but Noho Hank, and we all know it, will eventually get it....now that will be a sad dark episode.
And yes, it hooked us with 80% funny episodes then threw the dark hook in the final 2. Barry is rapidly becoming a true villain.
And yes, it hooked us with 80% funny episodes then threw the dark hook in the final 2. Barry is rapidly becoming a true villain.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:34 pm to Ace Midnight
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It's actually dark now -
I disagree. The darker it got, the better the show got
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:37 pm to Jack Ruby
From an interview with Hader.
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All these things that he’s trying to tell himself she’s like, “You’re a murderer,” and he is! I think it’s a nice thing that people have picked up on the fact that there are a lot of these shows where crime is the release, it’s like, “Oh God, we’re getting away with this!” That’s a little how Walter White was, and I’m not criticizing it—clearly we really liked Breaking Bad. There’s some shots we lined up in Episode 6 where I’m like, “Oh God this is getting ridiculous. This looks just like Breaking Bad.” But he’s a killer. “Starting now,” there’s a lot of futility in it, but I like it when his emotions are relatable. I think that people say that a lot in their life, just not heightened to the degree of murder. Like, “I’m gonna stop drinking starting now,”
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:55 pm to nes2010
Really enjoyed this season
Its like if Dexter, Silicon Valley, and Fargo all got together and made a kid, Barry would be it.
Its like if Dexter, Silicon Valley, and Fargo all got together and made a kid, Barry would be it.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 9:17 pm to wildtigercat93
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I disagree.
You disagree that it's actually dark now?
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The darker it got, the better the show got
I don't think we're in disagreement, but I think one of us might be confused. I said "almost" too dark. No question the show became great (and different) when Barry killed ole boy, just as Fuches wanted him to kill Taylor. The finale elevated it further because now - we have essentially a Bond villain (okay, maybe a Bond henchman/assassin of a Bond arch villain) running around all these sitcom characters.
That's brilliant television (and I never watched Dexter, BTW).
Posted on 5/16/18 at 9:28 pm to Ace Midnight
I misunderstood your post I guess. Keep the dark coming
Posted on 5/16/18 at 9:38 pm to Jack Ruby
Season two has to open with Barry under a tremendous amount of scrutiny. He murdered a cop. A cop that other cops know had Barry in her sights for a while. A cop that was at a remote location with Barry.
He didn't have time to conceal the murder scene and he can't really tidy things up with Sally and Cousineau around.
Cops don't go missing without other cops coming out in force.
He didn't have time to conceal the murder scene and he can't really tidy things up with Sally and Cousineau around.
Cops don't go missing without other cops coming out in force.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 10:08 pm to Erin Go Bragh
I agree with your post overall, but,
It was night when she went to the dock and sunrise when he came in the bedroom. Could be about 6 hours to deal with the body and cleanup. Next to a lake.
I agree he should get a shitload of scrutiny if this is going to be somewhat realistic though.
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He didn't have time to conceal the murder scene and he can't really tidy things up with Sally and Cousineau around.
It was night when she went to the dock and sunrise when he came in the bedroom. Could be about 6 hours to deal with the body and cleanup. Next to a lake.
I agree he should get a shitload of scrutiny if this is going to be somewhat realistic though.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:13 am to nes2010
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It was night when she went to the dock and sunrise when he came in the bedroom. Could be about 6 hours to deal with the body and cleanup. Next to a lake.
You're right about all of that and I should have worded my post in more detail.
If she drove then her car is still going to be on site. All her clothes are going to be in Cousineau's room. When Sally and Fonzie wake up in the morning it should be apparent to them that she didn't just leave in haste.
Their natural reaction would be to call the cops. Once the cops who work with Janice tie Barry to the scene his life will be put under ten microscopes. I don't see how Barry survives this type of relentless pursuit.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:55 am to Erin Go Bragh
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I don't see how Barry survives this type of relentless pursuit.
He's going to (probably already has) frame Fonzie for it. That will at least get the suspicion off him, partially. Cops want the easy out. Now, they will work this case harder because it is one of their own, but still.
Plus Fonzie in jail could make for some fantastically funny/dark moments.
Remember, Barry isn't a rookie - he's been killing folks with Fuches for years. He's a professional and gotten away with dozens of murders at this point.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:16 am to Ace Midnight
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He's going to (probably already has) frame Fonzie for it.
Honestly, that didn't occur to me. We're all sort of rooting for Barry to transcend his past so it's easy to forget he's an instinctive survivor and capable of turning on the innocent when necessary.
I understood his reluctant need to kill his marine friend when he was forced into that position by the friend. But to set Fonzie up for murder, a man who has reached out to him as a mentor, may have me rethinking my rooting for Barry.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:21 am to Jack Ruby
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The final 10 minutes of Barry's season finale were something straight out of Breaking Bad.
I thought the same thing.....that last scene on the dock was freaking intense!
ETA: when he had to kill his friend in the car that was some wild stuff...i really didn't know what he would do until he did it.
I was really surprised how good Barry is...expected less and got more!
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:04 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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We're all sort of rooting for Barry to transcend his past so it's easy to forget he's an instinctive survivor and capable of turning on the innocent when necessary.
This is the same kind of thing that went on with The Shield - we watched Vic shoot a member of his team - IN THE FACE - in the pilot. The rest of the series had us rooting for him to turn it around while lulling us to forget that he was essentially a shark, a predatory killer (when necessary) - a survivor above all.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:07 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:Fify
There's a whole lot of meh in the character Barry Block
Barry is a one-dimensional character that they're desperately trying to force a second dimension into and it just doesn't work for me. The one and only time I felt anything for him was when he realized he was going to have to kill his Marine friend. Hader was great in that episode.
quote:Barry is a legit killing machine while WW is the luckiest frick-up in the history of lucky frick-ups. In reality, WW would've never lived after running up against Tuco.
he's legitemetly a killing machine and badass, unlike white who gradually became a killer
Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:48 pm to King George
quote:I assume you're referring to the whole Barry the actor thing.
Barry is a one-dimensional character that they're desperately trying to force a second dimension into
He's clearly looking for a new identity, and the acting class was a glimpse that maybe he could be "someone else", and also, was at least, a refuge for a while.
It worked for me, I thought the whole season was pretty great.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:02 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:No I'm talking about Barry the main character of the show thing. The brooding hitman who is going to change his station in life through acting. Which by the way is the worst part of the show. Every time they go to anything related to acting class it drags the show down to a stop.
I assume you're referring to the whole Barry the actor thing.
I really want to like it because I really like Hader. Just doesn't do it for me. I don't think the whole show sucks though. Hank makes me laugh unexpectedly. Best part of the show.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 2:03 pm
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