re: The Prometheus (Major Spoiler) Discussion Thread

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I realize they are supposedly all different and take on some traits of whatever they gestate in, but I don't get what you are trying to say.

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That is what I'm trying to say. The Alien wasn't more primitive or anything, it just came out of a space jockey, we've never seen one of those before. That's why it didn't look like the Aliens we're used to.

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Many questions pertaining to the actual link between the end of Promethues and the start of Alien.

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YES. This, more than anything else, is what left me feeling somewhat unsatisfied by what was otherwise a very good, profound and entertaining movie. I wanted that connection to Alien...the link just wasn't there for me, despite the xenomorph hatching at the end. I fully expected the movie to end with the xenomorph bursting from the chest of the space jockey in his pilot chair.

No one has touched upon the artwork/piece in the Jockey dome that displayed the xenomorph in a type of crucifixion and/or worship scene. That would indicate to me that the engineers and xenomorphs have a long history that predates the time period in which the movie exists...it's that relationship that I wanted to see more of. Like I said earlier in this thread, I believe in the comics the engineers created the xenomorph race as a biological weapon then were overrun. Unfortunately Prometheus barely touched upon the connection between the engineers and xenomorphs aside from a few subtly placed clues (the art piece, acid blood of the snake creatures, etc.)

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Yet the cave glyphs on Earth had been "inviting" humanity to sojourn to the Prometheus system for at least 35,000 years. Why were the Engineers "inviting" humanity to what was apparently a weapons depot (or at least the system where a weapons depot was located) if they could have just demolished earth at any point in time, as they apparently intended to do? What's the purpose of the invitation?

Perhaps it wasn't always a weapons depot, and instead functioned as their actual domicile for thousands of years. If they migrated and colonized other worlds, they probably wouldn't stop by Earth to update the paintings.

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I talked about this with my buddy too. For example, some scientists here theorize that maybe we shouldn't have programs like SETI searching for alien life, because there is no guarantee you will find a benevolent race.

So the Jockeys/Engineers may have designated LV-233 as the meeting place for invitation simply because it was not near their home planet, a strategic move of security.


ETA: And we clearly do not have the Space Jockey from Alien, which is weird. In essence, we have a whole new story line entirely, since this incident had nothing to do with LV-426 and we now have Shaw and David on their way towards the Engineer homeworld.

My only gripe was that the movie gave some answers a little too easy/quickly. I would have liked a little more suspense to build, waiting on the payoff just a little longer, but a minor gripe. Instead, we basically got the next question answered every step of the way immediately, besides the ones they didn't answer, namely, why create us and why destroy us?

And I think David knew everything the minute he walked into their weapon depot because he could read every symbol because he acted in a way that he knew what was going on. He immediately knew poisoning the guy would do something bad. Also, he took every jab personaly that he was souless/non-human and was visibly shaken. This tells me he had developed self-worth, which could explain him not giving a frick about killing that guy because he was mad about his situation and being treated that way, but I still fail to see a real motive, besides wanting to eventually "kill his parents" as he said he thought all humans wanted to do to experience being "free."

Yeah Charlize's character was sort of pointless other tha being basically a red herring. I thought she might be a robot too then dude came right out and asked her.

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Yeah Charlize's character was sort of pointless other tha being basically a red herring. I thought she might be a robot too then dude came right out and asked her.

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Not to mention, IMO unless someone convinces me otherwise, the writing decision to make her the guy's daughter was utterly contrived.

"Hey guys, plot twist idea, not only is the old guy alive and on this boat, but this chick, get this, they'll never guess, is his DAUGHTHER!"

"So, what does this mean for the plot?"

"NOTHING! That's the genius of it!"

I also thought the whole abortion scene was over the top, then she just shows up like it's nothing and nobody seemed to really ask too many questions. She also should have figured out that David killed her man, especially after he came right out and said matter of factly that it wasn't the air. She asked him how he knew but dropped it after that.

Ultimately it was pretty disappointing, but my expectations were probably way too high. I still like it I guess, but it's below the original 3 (4 never happened as far as I'm concerned)

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I also thought the whole abortion scene was over the top, then she just shows up like it's nothing and nobody seemed to really ask too many questions.

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Only scene that provided some horror (besides perhaps the pile of Engineer bodies, but that led to a pedestrian snake death a little later), and then I think they dropped the ball after it. I mean, she goes through this horrible ordeal and then suits up like normal for another try at communication with the Engineers. Now, to be fair, she went as a "mole" since she tried to usurp the conversation, but that ended up being pointless as well.

I guess I would have preferred that scene to have begun a series of horrific events with her fighting for survival covered in her own blood, but nope.

Its like every thing that happened appeared to have a reason, and then went no where.

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Things that let you know one of the creators of Lost wrote this script for $1000 Alex

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I hate LOST. They just threw shite at the wall, and I guess they are still doing it.

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Yeah that would have been much better. It just seems pretty out of place in retrospect, although not nearly as bad as the ridiculous zombie scene.

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Ya, I saw that discussion earlier and have to agree. It wasn't even all that clear who was reanimating like the Hulk

If you are gonna have this goo cause a variety of issues, I think the movie has to explain the goo just a little bit, so things like zombie guy don't seem so out of place. That scene could make sense with a little bit more backstory. Instead, its random as hell (but makes sense-ish in retrospect).

I guess we are to surmise this goo just does a variety of horrible things to people/animals which gives the scene some depth. Also, someone mentioned those maggot worms the guy stepped on with his boot, perhaps the goo turns those into Xenomorphs? Basically, the goo turns biological animals into horrible horrible super strength creatures.

This however, makes the goo the weapon, and the xenomorphs are the weapon created by the weapon.

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So those cells were supposed to be the beginning of life.

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I have several problem with this explanation.

First, they showed that our DNA was a complete match for theirs... Which can't be true bc even different races of humans don't have 100 percent matching DNA, but let's say that it was even 99 percent matching.. How the hell did that species seed the earth with all of its living things yet have matching DNA with only humans?

Also, he drank that black stuff which means the combination of their DNA with the black goo gave rise to humans? Then wouldn't humans share similar genetic make up with those that were born out of the goo??

I really hope there's a sequel to explain some of this.