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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)

Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:35 pm to
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I don't know for sure, but, I think that there were many folks that disliked 2001 A Space Odyssey when it was released. Of course, now that it's considered a classic, few would say, "That movie is a mediocre failure".



It's clear to me, that at least on their first viewing, many of the critics clearly didn't understand the movie, and I'm not sure if they actually paid attention, claiming you needed a PhD in physics to understand it, when it seemed pretty damn straight forward to me, and seems like most of this board so far. I can understand not understanding the fifth dimensional part, since the film never bothers to explain what the fifth dimension is (which I'm thankful since that would have been like a 10 minute explanation at least), but other than that I don't see why this film was hard to understand.

This is a film that I think will age very well and analyzed intensely. You're not supposed to fathom everything on your first viewing, and that's ok. I just think some people are being quick to judge it, while simultaneously admiring it's ambition. That admiration will bring people back to watch it, and hopefully understand the film more fully.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 10:36 pm
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:36 pm to
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It a deus ex machina, an overly convenient and somewhat random way to resolve a plot


When you have to follow your pretentious phrase with a comma and a definition of said phrase, wouldnt it be easier just to use just the definition instead?
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:41 pm to
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In short, the film fails because it attempts to imagine or, more arrogantly, explain things about which we have no idea in very specific terms.
welcome to SciFi?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:42 pm to
What was ambitious about this movie and why is ambition even being applied to movie making?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:45 pm to
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What was ambitious about this movie




Seriously, even the people dogging the film say it's ambitious.

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why is ambition even being applied to movie making?



If you don't have an ambition to tell a story, then don't make it. Asking why ambition should be in movie making is like asking why someone should have a passion for cooking. Shouldn't just cooking be enough?
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:49 pm to
Here is a cool read about Neil deGrasse Tyson's view on the movie. LINK

Supposedly he will be discussing interstellar with Nolan soon on a radio talk show.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:52 pm to
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Seriously, even the people dogging the film say it's ambitious.
Then you should be able to answer the question with ease

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If you don't have an ambition to tell a story, then don't make it
That makes no sense. What if one has a desire, or a want to tell a story?
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:56 pm to
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It a deus ex machina,
how is it deus ex machina if part of what resolved the plot was mentioned or alluded to in the beginning of the movie?
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 11:04 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:58 pm to
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Then you should be able to answer the question with ease



I could, but I really don't feel like wasting my time on such a stupid fricking question.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:05 pm to
In other words, it's just something you say that has no real meaning at all but makes you feel like some sort of movie maven.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:05 pm to
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When you have to follow your pretentious phrase with a comma and a definition of said phrase, wouldnt it be easier just to use just the definition instead?

It's not pretension. I was quoting a previously used term and defining it for those who werent familiar with it, to make the argument accessible to anyone. Cute bunny rabbit, though.

Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15962 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:18 pm to
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In other words, it's just something you say that has no real meaning at all but makes you feel like some sort of movie maven
the movies plot was solely reliant on the theoretical physics by kip thorne. This leads me to two questions:

When was the last time you saw a big budget film do this?

Do you know what ambitious means?
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 11:19 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:20 pm to
From the article:

quote:

The trippiest part of "Interstellar" comes toward the end, when the action takes place inside a black hole's event horizon. As far as theorists know, the laws of physics break down in that environment — but the filmmakers have set up what they call a "tesseract," or a three-dimensional representation of what the cosmos might look like in extra dimensions.

Inside the tesseract, it's possible to move through time as if it were a spatial dimension. "How you portray that, we don't know, so you let the producers and visual artists figure something out," Tyson said. "It's an attempt to show a person who is no longer bound into the present, a person who has access to the timeline of your own life the same way you can move around in space."



So the final scene within the black hole is actually based on theoretical physics? That is some trippy stuff right there.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:22 pm to
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how is it deus ex machina if part of what resolved the plot was mentioned or alluded to in the beginning of the movie?

A mechanism for the resolution was inserted into the beginning of the story to correspond with the end, but we go from the film's established world to a complete shift to one of infinite possibility right at the end of the movie. That seemed really lazy and unimaginative to me, like they were just trying to resolve deep questions they raised with silly answers, just to tidy up the plot with an ambiguous scenario in which anything is possible.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:26 pm to
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Here is a cool read about Neil deGrasse Tyson's view on the movie. LINK

So do you have your own opinion, or do you just swoop in and give others' opinions just to seem like you know shite about shite? Just to be a little irritating, irrelevant shite? Tell me in great detail.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:33 pm to
just got out...good god what a great movie


i dont think ive ever emotionally connected with a movie like that before..
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:37 pm to
Damn that movie was a roller coaster ride of emotions and action. I had no idea what to expect in the black hole. Matt Damon was a dick, and the visualization of five demensions was really well thought out.

Note - I saw it in 70mm IMAX in Dallas. Visuals were jaw dropping.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 11:39 pm
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:40 pm to
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plot was solely reliant on

lolove the hypocrisy. Give me an original phrase before you accuse me of pretention. Dumbass.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:40 pm to
Some positives and negatives noted after watching it for the second time.

**Spoilers**


Nearly everything leading up to the initial launch - apart from the bookshelf backstory - was completely useless. Some of it (the truck ride with daughter, driving away from family while crying, etc.) was meant to be moving, I think, but it absolutely was not. It was ~45 minutes of wasted time.

Also, the whole wrestling seen with Matt Damon was too cookie-cutter for me, but I guess it was necessary in order to set up the epic - and I do mean EPIC - docking scene.

Nolan has a tendency towards lengthy, epic climaxes, and Interstellar is no exception. I may be being slightly reactionary, but Interstellar's climax may be his best yet. Just unbelievable. Breathtaking.

And I appreciated the score a lot more on this second viewing. Very good. I still maintain that it's nowhere near Inception, but that's hardly a knock.

One thing I noticed this time that somehow escaped me the first time, is that at the end, they're in the space ship (thingy) that Michael Caine and Jessica Chastain were building on Earth. No idea how I missed that originally. I just assumed they were in some sort of space station; I didn't realize it was that space station.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:41 pm to
It was a good article
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