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re: The 50 Best Dystopian Movies of All Time
Posted on 6/1/21 at 7:50 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Posted on 6/1/21 at 7:50 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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The first Terminator spent a lot of time in a very dystopian future. 2 of the main characters are products of that time. Still better than the Lego movie
Better than the LEGO movie, but it’s not close. It takes place in a modern past. It is not in the Top 100 dystopian films ever made. Most Star Wars movies are more dystopian than the first two Terminator films.
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Posted on 6/1/21 at 7:56 pm to OMLandshark
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Better than the LEGO movie, but it’s not close
Well, it looks like the Lego movie doesn't make your top 100
Posted on 6/1/21 at 7:56 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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Well, it looks like the Lego movie doesn't make your top 100
No, it doesn’t.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 8:15 pm to OMLandshark
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No, it doesn’t.
Well, you said the Terminator was better than Lego and the Terminator doesn't make your top 100...
Posted on 6/1/21 at 9:04 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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The first Terminator spent a lot of time in a very dystopian future.
A big part of dystopia is control of the populace in a way that convinces them they're happy, or at least complacent. Humanity fighting an all-out genocide is post-apocalyptic, not dystopia, unless I am totally misremembering Terminator.
People have probably said it already, but I have a hard time understanding Children of Men as dystopian. If you're going to leave off all Mad Max, you should also leave off things like Children of Men.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 9:19 pm to Jay Are
These examples of definitions aren't about getting into a back and forth. It's more of how I look at Dystopia stories.
Well, Merriam-Webster uses this definition:
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Wikipedia:
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Google:
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No matter what interpretation you use, it's typically not very promising
Well, Merriam-Webster uses this definition:
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Definition of dystopia
1: an imagined world or society in which people lead wretched, dehumanized, fearful lives
Wikipedia:
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is a fictional community or society that is undesirable or frightening.
Google:
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noun: dystopia; plural noun: dystopias
an imagined state or society in which there is great suffering or injustice, typically one that is totalitarian or post-apocalyptic.
No matter what interpretation you use, it's typically not very promising
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 6/1/21 at 9:34 pm to Jay Are
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People have probably said it already, but I have a hard time understanding Children of Men as dystopian. If you're going to leave off all Mad Max, you should also leave off things like Children of Men.
The thing is I don’t really see why dystopian and apocalyptic are necessarily separate. I look at Children of Men as both dystopian and apocalyptic. In the meantime it’s dystopian, but the apocalypse seems very much inevitable in that universe.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 9:53 pm to OMLandshark
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37. Dark City (1998)
Way too low. It’s a damn masterpiece.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:27 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Definition of dystopia
1: an imagined world or society in which people lead wretched, dehumanized, fearful lives
The one we're currently living out the prologue is pretty terrifying.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:15 am to RLDSC FAN
To my surprise I completely agree with 1 and 2, and maybe 3.
Dark City is good enough to be top 10, but isn't a great fit for some of what they are looking for, based on their definition. The reasons why would involve spoilers.
The Death of Stalin would fit, though.
Dark City is good enough to be top 10, but isn't a great fit for some of what they are looking for, based on their definition. The reasons why would involve spoilers.
The Death of Stalin would fit, though.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:40 am to nes2010
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Not one Mad Max movie made the top 50?
I thought Mad Max was just a documentary on living in the Australian Outback ;)
Seriously though, the original and Fury Road should have made the list.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:55 am to OMLandshark
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The thing is I don’t really see why dystopian and apocalyptic are necessarily separate.
IMO Apocalyptic is life after catastrophe, dystopian is life where society is the catastrophe.
Many on that list are apocalyptic. I never considered COM as apocalyptic, but it is such with a genetic mutation being the catastrophe.
Excellent movie/documentary all-around. Pull my finger.
Edit: but is Blade Runner really dystopian, per se. L.A. is just a great big overcrowded city, and there is really no indication of a total breakdown of society or implied catastrophe.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 9:00 am
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:18 am to RLDSC FAN
Would you call Wall-E a dystopic film?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:40 am to keks tadpole
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Is Blade Runner really dystopian, per se. L.A. is just a great big overcrowded city, and there is really no indication of a total breakdown of society or implied catastrophe.
I would consider Blade Runner dystopian. Pollution and crime are rampant. Most animals have gone extinct and most people who have the means and qualify have left Earth to live on the outer world colonies.
I think that's where the sequel movie kind of screwed up. It painted the future as this cool futuristic place instead of the bleak garbage dump that Ridley created in the original. Plus they should have explored the off world colony aspect - what were these places that humans fled to and why did they need replicants?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:59 am to keks tadpole
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Edit: but is Blade Runner really dystopian, per se. L.A. is just a great big overcrowded city, and there is really no indication of a total breakdown of society or implied catastrophe.
It’s big time dystopian, certainly by 2049. Water is an expensive commodity by that point, which is why Wallace surrounds himself with it to dictate his power to any who visit him. In 2022 they had a major blackout countrywide where they lost a shite ton of knowledge and a ton of people and replicants got killed.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:03 am to AUFANATL
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I think that's where the sequel movie kind of screwed up. It painted the future as this cool futuristic place instead of the bleak garbage dump that Ridley created in the original.
The world has gotten even worse by the time of Blade Runner 2049. They have had to build giant sea walls, Los Angeles has devolved into a state of permanent winter, water is an expensive commodity, they’re on the verge of a major war with replicants, and they now have to eat bugs to survive. I’d like to visit the Blade Runner Universe, but sure as shite wouldn’t want to live there.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:15 am to RLDSC FAN
How the frick is this not on the list?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:22 am to RLDSC FAN
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We’ve also eliminated post-apocalyptic films where society hasn’t been rebuilt to the point of a functioning government.
Looks like many people overlooked this caveat.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:34 am to Havoc
Well now, that's a strange elimination. 
That's like naming the best WWII movies and eliminating Nazis.
That's like naming the best WWII movies and eliminating Nazis.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:09 pm to RLDSC FAN
I admit that there are many I haven't seen, as the genre is too dark for me. But Equilibrium and Looper should get more accolades. Looper's depiction of the near future is horrifying, and likely accurate.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 2:25 pm
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