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re: Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home appreciation thread

Posted on 5/14/22 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 2:12 pm to
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To be fair, trying to fool an entity powerful enough to destroy the entire planet should probably only be a last resort.


I actually (to my small shame) bought the novelization where they went into a small bit of detail why a recording wouldn't fly.

1) They don't understand the whale language so they wouldn't know what they were sending out. What if they had a recording of some whale that hated life or was hitching up a storm?

2) They figured the probe would want to communicate with the whales and would quickly sniff out a deception if everything it said received an answer of "I love mackarel" or whatever.

3) The probe would want an explanation of what the hell has been going on so the whales would need to know the truth (we're extinct in the 23rd century but the humans are trying to do the right thing and fix their screwup) and be bought in to the program, thus why Spock mind melded with them.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 2:14 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104010 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:05 pm to
And thus the problem of current Trek…

Best Trek show today is The Orville while Lower Decks is what The Orville was expected to be.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35925 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:12 pm to
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Best Trek show today is The Orville
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I couldn’t agree more. Seth Macfarlane could be Star Trek’s Dave Filoni.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35925 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:18 pm to
This looks like a good thread.

So, I’m a big TNG series and OG Star Trek movies geek. Which of the new series should I watch? I’ve heard nothing but bad reviews on this board.

Never watched much of Voyager or DS9.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104010 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:26 pm to
DS9 is worth watching. Lots of continuity and world building as opposed to candle ghosts and holodeck malfunctions.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26952 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:49 pm to
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DS9 is worth watching. Lots of continuity and world building as opposed to candle ghosts and holodeck malfunctions.




The build up from the first episode to the conclusion of DS9 as a series is perhaps the best I've seen. It all flows. Yes, they have some crappy episodes, but you get from point A to point Z. Maybe Babylon 5 rivals it. But DS9 flows so well from start to finish.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47099 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:17 pm to
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I’ve always heard it referred to as the “Spock” trilogy.


While I've never heard that designation, it makes sense. He's the common thread, even if he's not the focal point of all 3 movies.

That's a clever way to move characters and stories from one movie to the next. Something I think Disney-Marvel could have incorporated into their master plan, instead of the bait-switch-repeat stuff we see now.


Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95637 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:52 pm to
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Looking at how Picard is bringing back a lot of old TNG references I always wonder why no one does the same for TOS.


They don't have to, because they already shredded TOS lore with the godawful, JJ Abrams, so-called "Trek" films.

Picard is specifically to subvert and destroy all the positives of TNG.

I wonder how they're going to rape DS9...
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95637 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:54 pm to
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DS9 is worth watching. Lots of continuity and world building as opposed to candle ghosts and holodeck malfunctions.



The civilians of DS9 were great, especially Quark and Garak. Plus, DS9 has the finest, most well-developed, 4-dimensional villain in all of film/television science fiction - Gul Dukat.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14058 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:14 pm to
This was a fish out of water….
Mammal The Marine Biologist—Seinfeld
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