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Star Trek: The Motion Picture on the Big Screen
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:40 am
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:40 am
I took my 13-year-old to see Star Trek: The motion picture last night at the theater.
It was much better on the big screen, though the graphics (in some areas) were very spotty - V-ger looked great though. The score was spot on. The only thing I didn’t like was the short doc. played beforehand - it pretty much gave the plot away - so my son was not as surprised when he discovered that v-ger was in fact a Voyager ship (he has been reading about them lately).
He enjoyed the movie but thought that many of the scenes (especially the shot of Scotty and Kirk taking a shuttle to the Enterprise) were too long and drawn-out.
It was much better on the big screen, though the graphics (in some areas) were very spotty - V-ger looked great though. The score was spot on. The only thing I didn’t like was the short doc. played beforehand - it pretty much gave the plot away - so my son was not as surprised when he discovered that v-ger was in fact a Voyager ship (he has been reading about them lately).
He enjoyed the movie but thought that many of the scenes (especially the shot of Scotty and Kirk taking a shuttle to the Enterprise) were too long and drawn-out.
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:56 am to Bham4Tide
I always thought the movie was very underrated but it didn't do poor Scotty any favors.
First, he can't fix the transporter beam before it turns the new science officer into sushi and then the warp drive is catastrophically screwed up but Spock just shows up and repairs it in 3 hours.
Definitely drawn out but you have to remember that this was supposed to be the Enterprise's big reveal for the big screen after the TV series had been off the air for a decade.
First, he can't fix the transporter beam before it turns the new science officer into sushi and then the warp drive is catastrophically screwed up but Spock just shows up and repairs it in 3 hours.
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He enjoyed the movie but thought that many of the scenes (especially the shot of Scotty and Kirk taking a shuttle to the Enterprise) were too long and drawn-out.
Definitely drawn out but you have to remember that this was supposed to be the Enterprise's big reveal for the big screen after the TV series had been off the air for a decade.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 10:58 am
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:20 am to Bham4Tide
I think part of ST:TMP missing the mark with audiences is that they may have wanted to be Star Wars while distancing themselves from Star Wars. The Original Series had action, but it also had an equal share of cerebral episodes. Their thinking may have been to go all in on the high-sci-fi to make their mark.
But man, they adjusted perfectly for Wrath of Khan. If that comes to the theaters again, I am there.
But man, they adjusted perfectly for Wrath of Khan. If that comes to the theaters again, I am there.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:24 am to Walking the Earth
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it didn't do poor Scotty any favors.
SHE CANT TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:25 am to LuckyTiger
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SHE CANT TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS
That's what SHE said.
Wait.
That's what I said.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:42 am to Fewer Kilometers
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If that comes to the theaters again, I am there.
Absolutely.
But Saavik is correct. The Kobiyashi Maru is complete BS. Kirk describes it as a "test of character" but what exactly is being tested besides the initial decision to enter the Neutral Zone? Within five seconds of entering, you have three Klingon cruisers up your arse and they knock down your shields, disable the power and kill the bridge crew with two shots.
Also, the Ceti Alpha V incident pretty much torpedoed Chekov's career, right? At the beginning of the movie, he was first officer on a top of the line ship with full need to know about Starfleet's most secret operation and after that he never even sniffed a position of real influence ever again.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:45 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Definitely drawn out but you have to remember that this was supposed to be the Enterprise's big reveal for the big screen after the TV series had been off the air for a decade.
This. Beat me to it. As someone who watched Star Trek on the air as a young kid these scenes amazed me when it first came out in the theater. I like the homage to that scene revealing the "Enterprise" in Galaxy Quest. "It's Real!"
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:23 pm to Bham4Tide
I was around 15 or so when it came out. They had actually released the novel version of this movie before it was released to theatres. It was a full-length book. It's really too bad some of the storylines from the novel didn't make it to the move as I think it would have been a little better story. A few things I remember from the novel:
*We actually saw the meeting between Kirk and Adm Nogura and how he got the ship back.
*The lady in the transporter accident with Cmd Sonak was actually his ex-spouse, Vice Admiral Lori Ciana..
*McCoy had been with the Fabrini if you remember the asteroid "Unada" where Bones hooked up with that priestess chick before he was drafted by Kirk.
* Wil Decker is the son of Matt Decker (Doomsday Machine"
The Novel was actually written by Gene Roddenberry FWIW
I didn't mind the long fly around of the Enterprise in the "Big Reveal" but I thought was a complete waste of time is the very long flight of the Enterprise inside of V'ger getting to the final destination.
I hated the uniforms as well...way too bland...They story was good..
*We actually saw the meeting between Kirk and Adm Nogura and how he got the ship back.
*The lady in the transporter accident with Cmd Sonak was actually his ex-spouse, Vice Admiral Lori Ciana..
*McCoy had been with the Fabrini if you remember the asteroid "Unada" where Bones hooked up with that priestess chick before he was drafted by Kirk.
* Wil Decker is the son of Matt Decker (Doomsday Machine"
The Novel was actually written by Gene Roddenberry FWIW
I didn't mind the long fly around of the Enterprise in the "Big Reveal" but I thought was a complete waste of time is the very long flight of the Enterprise inside of V'ger getting to the final destination.
I hated the uniforms as well...way too bland...They story was good..
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:30 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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But man, they adjusted perfectly for Wrath of Khan. If that comes to the theaters again, I am there.
Khan was in the theater last week as well. We saw both. Khan is definitely my runaway favorite, but my husband is a diehard fan from way back, and swears by TMP.
TMP was an answer to Star Wars and they didnt really know what they were doing. The writing, dealing with Roddenberry, etc was a debacle. They also added a 2001 sterile look to it which you either love or hate. I dont care for that. The more militaristic uniforms and such in the later movies was preferable imo. It is really a good story, tho.
The endless ride approaching the Enterprise was tedious for some, but for people watching in 1979 who were saddened by the cancellation of the series a decade earlier it was just awe-inspiring to see the Enterprise that way. My husband savors every second. It was great on the big screen.
Likewise, the looooooong voyage into V-ger was just relentless. I told my husband I would just nap during that part. He explained his love for this movie by saying that as a kid watching the series in syndication, he enjoyed seeing all the time on the bridge with the crew figuring things out. That is a HUGE part of this movie.
All in all, I liked seeing both movies a lot. As my nerdy Trekkie husband said "Its been 40 years. Attention must be paid."
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:46 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I think part of ST:TMP missing the mark with audiences is that they may have wanted to be Star Wars while distancing themselves from Star Wars. The Original Series had action, but it also had an equal share of cerebral episodes. Their thinking may have been to go all in on the high-sci-fi to make their mark.
I didn't know until about a decade ago that Paramount originally wanted to make another Star Trek series in the mid to late 70's after the original series' syndication was proven a success. But, after Close Encounters of the Third Kind's success, changed the idea from a TV show to a feature film.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:56 pm to Bham4Tide
I can get why folks today would watch it and not love it but there has been some severe revisionist history on Motion Picture. At least on the kid side, everyone I knew loved it.
We got to see the gang from a cancelled tv show on the big screen. Who knew that could happen? It was awesome.
Only thing the kids poked fun at was the bald chick. They did make fun of the bald chick.
We got to see the gang from a cancelled tv show on the big screen. Who knew that could happen? It was awesome.
Only thing the kids poked fun at was the bald chick. They did make fun of the bald chick.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:00 pm to TigerMyth36
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We got to see the gang from a cancelled tv show on the big screen.
I did not realize until it was said in the documentary part of the show last night that Star Trek was the first TV series to be made into a movie. I had never made that connection. But yeah...it was a HUGE deal.
The bald chick was alarming to 11 year old me!
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:01 pm to TigerMyth36
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Only thing the kids poked fun at was the bald chick. They did make fun of the bald chick.
They also made fun of the uniforms a lot when I was a kid. Most everyone called them Starfleet pajamas, especially compared to the uniforms from ST II forward.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:12 pm to ladygoodman
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I did not realize until it was said in the documentary part of the show last night that Star Trek was the first TV series to be made into a movie.
Well, the first Batman feature length film was made while the TV series was on the air in '66.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 1:21 pm to TigerMyth36
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I can get why folks today would watch it and not love it but there has been some severe revisionist history on Motion Picture. At least on the kid side, everyone I knew loved it.
The problem had multiple facets - once everyone was over the shock that "STAR TREK IS BACK" - the sombering reality was that TMP had a version of the plot of The Changeling, with bits of The Lights of Zetar thrown in and not much of substance past about 1 hour of content. The rest of the visuals were, frankly, stunning and revolutionary (at least as much as Star Wars was, from a cinematography standpoint), but it wasn't enough for the movie to ride on, long-term. Then with a sequel to A Space Seed in TWOK - folks realized the missed opportunity to tell a good story that the first movie kind of squandered.
If anything, over time, those of us unimpressed with TMP, initially, have grown to appreciate it more (kind of the way folks who watch 2001 as a kid don't really get it, but definitely do when they're a little older). I certainly have.
It's absolutely better than any of the TNG films (except First Contact) or anything after those.
Heck, it's better than TFF.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:29 pm to Ace Midnight
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If anything, over time, those of us unimpressed with TMP, initially, have grown to appreciate it more (kind of the way folks who watch 2001 as a kid don't really get it, but definitely do when they're a little older). I certainly have.
This is me.
Always a fan. Went to see it when it was originally released. It was okay (and the long approach didn't bother me).
Definitely have come to appreciate it more as I have gotten older.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:04 pm to Bham4Tide
quote:Oh frick!
I took my 13-year-old to see Star Trek: The motion picture
quote:Oh. Whew! I was worried for a second.
so my son
My first weird boner.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 8:20 pm to Bham4Tide
I fricking love The Motion Picture so much. Seeing it on the big screen was an amazing opportunity
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:33 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I did not realize until it was said in the documentary part of the show last night that Star Trek was the first TV series to be made into a movie.
Well, the first Batman feature length film was made while the TV series was on the air in '66.
You are RIGHT!! I knew that didnt sound right when they said it. So the doc at the beginning of the film is wrong!
Posted on 9/20/19 at 5:43 am to ladygoodman
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You are RIGHT!! I knew that didnt sound right when they said it. So the doc at the beginning of the film is wrong!
Unless they said it was the first series to have a movie made after it was cancelled.
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