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re: Siskel & Ebert pan Full Metal Jacket
Posted on 4/22/18 at 10:43 pm to prplhze2000
Posted on 4/22/18 at 10:43 pm to prplhze2000
This is what happens Larry! When you frick a stranger in the arse!
Posted on 4/22/18 at 11:11 pm to olemc999
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They thought the original Friday the 13th was one of the worst movies ever made.
They were right
Posted on 4/23/18 at 7:04 am to navy
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How does anyone hate Dead Poets Society?
I do not hate it but do not see why it was so loved. Saw it once when it came out and found it blah.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:38 am to Tackle74
my mom watched Full Metal Jacket about a week after I joined the navy - 1st time i called home, she lost it because she thought the Company Commanders were that bad LOL.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:56 am to randomways
quote:This is the key to criticism of any popular art form - films, music, literature, what have you.
his critiques seem to emphasize different priorities than the ones I possess
Until you discover a critic whose tastes and point of view are similar to your own, it's better to think of reviews as just another form of infotainment and not take them seriously.
Actually, this works for pretty much all forms of subjective journalism. Especially political commentary.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:55 am to FearlessFreep
While its good to have a critic whose tastes line up with yours (for me, that's Matt Singer or Sean O'Neal), I also think its good to have some critics who you don't agree with but have a consistent worldview and good writing style to challenge you. I don't share the same aestehtic as Stephanie Zacharek or Ignatiy Vishnevetsky, but I enjoy their writing, and sometimes I come around to their way of thinking on a movie. If nothing else, they do a good job of making me think of my own preconceptions and biases.
Criticism is subjective, sure, but its about critical thought. And their are objective truths beyond "this is good" or what you like. There's how the movie is made and what the symbols are trying to convey.
What is so great about Ebert is not just that he was a funny and insightful writer, but that even when I disagreed with him, he made me think. Take his BLUE VELVET review. He doesn't deny its "good" per se, but he challenges Lynch on why he sets up the regular townspeople as strawmen while the scenes of sexual masochism are played in horrific straight realism. Lynch's real world is obviously fake, which weakens his argument.
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Now, I love BLUE VELVET and think its an absolute masterpiece, but I can't say that Ebert's criticism are wrong. Lynch does stack the deck, and the movie might be an in joke (I agree with those who say nothing happens after the camera goes in the ear... its all fantasy). Reducing criticism to a consumer review cheapens both film and good criticism. It's about wrestling with the nature of the work, which Ebert did. His review of BLUE VELVET is an important part of wrestling with the film now.
Criticism is subjective, sure, but its about critical thought. And their are objective truths beyond "this is good" or what you like. There's how the movie is made and what the symbols are trying to convey.
What is so great about Ebert is not just that he was a funny and insightful writer, but that even when I disagreed with him, he made me think. Take his BLUE VELVET review. He doesn't deny its "good" per se, but he challenges Lynch on why he sets up the regular townspeople as strawmen while the scenes of sexual masochism are played in horrific straight realism. Lynch's real world is obviously fake, which weakens his argument.
LINK
Now, I love BLUE VELVET and think its an absolute masterpiece, but I can't say that Ebert's criticism are wrong. Lynch does stack the deck, and the movie might be an in joke (I agree with those who say nothing happens after the camera goes in the ear... its all fantasy). Reducing criticism to a consumer review cheapens both film and good criticism. It's about wrestling with the nature of the work, which Ebert did. His review of BLUE VELVET is an important part of wrestling with the film now.
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