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Shutter Island - Spoilers
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:09 pm
What is with Marty and his unhappy endings?
I don't see how it makes for a better movie that he actually doesn't recover.
Also the entire movie was ruined for me in the scene where he is interviewing the woman who wrote RUN in his notebook.
When she asks for water, Chuck gets her water but she has no glass in her hand when she raises it to drink.
From that point on, I figured Leo was probably crazy. I don't get why Marty spilled the beans so early.
Also, since Chuck was real, but he was just the Doctor, I still don't really understand the missing water glass.
I don't see how it makes for a better movie that he actually doesn't recover.
Also the entire movie was ruined for me in the scene where he is interviewing the woman who wrote RUN in his notebook.
When she asks for water, Chuck gets her water but she has no glass in her hand when she raises it to drink.
From that point on, I figured Leo was probably crazy. I don't get why Marty spilled the beans so early.
Also, since Chuck was real, but he was just the Doctor, I still don't really understand the missing water glass.
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Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:11 pm to TigerMyth36
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that he actually doesn't recover.
That's not what happened.
"Is it better to live as a monster or die as a good man?"
This post was edited on 4/10/10 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:20 pm to Atari
Whoops you are right. That went right over my head.
Still don't get the water glass.
Still don't get the water glass.
This post was edited on 4/10/10 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:22 pm to TigerMyth36
I don't remember that scene. I meant to go back to see it a second time but never got around to it.
I won't go to a movie alone, and it's hard to convince my girlfriend to see a movie twice.
I won't go to a movie alone, and it's hard to convince my girlfriend to see a movie twice.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:28 pm to Atari
Perfect copy can be found on the interwebs.
It looked weird when I saw it so I backed it up.
She raises her hand to drink and there is no glass, then the perspective changes and it appears she puts a glass down.
It made me think at that point that Chuck was not real and thus Leo was nuts.
Just not sure why he did that because it takes away some of the punch at the end.
It looked weird when I saw it so I backed it up.
She raises her hand to drink and there is no glass, then the perspective changes and it appears she puts a glass down.
It made me think at that point that Chuck was not real and thus Leo was nuts.
Just not sure why he did that because it takes away some of the punch at the end.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:51 pm to Atari
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That's not what happened.
"Is it better to live as a monster or die as a good man?"
Exactly - he DOES recover but he can't live with himself and the grief/self-blame for the death of his children and wife. He knows what's going on and chooses the lobotomy - that was pretty haunting if you ask me.
I'm not sure what you're referring to with the empty water glass. Also, couldn't you have just seen that as the bitch drinking it was crazy?
Nevertheless, I loved the movie. It was Scorsese dabbling in a genre he rarely works with.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:55 pm to Jwodie
Possibly , but if you notice it, it puts you in the mindset that maybe he is the one that is nuts.
As I said, it just seemed pointless. We already know she is nuts.
I liked the movie, I just think that scene gave a bit away or maybe it was a headfake, but the headfake caused me to figure out early on that he was the one that was crazy.
As I said, it just seemed pointless. We already know she is nuts.
I liked the movie, I just think that scene gave a bit away or maybe it was a headfake, but the headfake caused me to figure out early on that he was the one that was crazy.
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:31 am to TigerMyth36
shite dude, i knew leo was crazy from the beginning scene on the boat when he had that goofy tie on.
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:56 am to TigerMyth36
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I liked the movie, I just think that scene gave a bit away or maybe it was a headfake, but the headfake caused me to figure out early on that he was the one that was crazy.
So you had convinced yourself that he was crazy from that point on? The rest of the movie did nothing for you? Honest questions, not trying to hate.
Posted on 4/11/10 at 12:00 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Yes. It made me suspicious that he was the one that was crazy.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 8:59 pm to TigerMyth36
ya know, i was really digging this movie until towards the end when they started to hint that he was indeed the crazy one, living in his own little world.
it's not that I dont like to think during movies...i do. But i think with this one, they went to far with the whole mind twisting element....it just started to become overbearing.
i think they could have made a more interesting movie if they had let it play out that he was indeed a cop there, being set up, and eventually either escaping the island or becoming condemned to the looney house.
prob another reason it lost points with me, was i hate flashbacks/dreams in the movie...especially in this case
it's not that I dont like to think during movies...i do. But i think with this one, they went to far with the whole mind twisting element....it just started to become overbearing.
i think they could have made a more interesting movie if they had let it play out that he was indeed a cop there, being set up, and eventually either escaping the island or becoming condemned to the looney house.
prob another reason it lost points with me, was i hate flashbacks/dreams in the movie...especially in this case
Posted on 6/9/10 at 9:05 pm to TigerMyth36
I wish they would have convinced the viewer that Leo was crazy and at the very end put a seed of doubt that maybe the doctors did the perfect scam...making the moviegoer crazy (in a sense). I was waiting for that until the credits.
This post was edited on 6/9/10 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 6/9/10 at 9:13 pm to Lester Earl
For me what I wanted to know at the end was why he was crazy and why he was really there, IMO that was the real surprise. I would think a lot of people guessed he was crazy just from watching the trailers before they even saw the movie.
Posted on 6/9/10 at 9:25 pm to ovaltine
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I wish they would have convinced the viewer that Leo was crazy and at the very end put a seed of doubt that maybe the doctors did the perfect scam...making the moviegoer crazy (in a sense). I was waiting for that until the credits.
I agree. I wanted it to be somewhat ambiguous. Because I "guessed" on the boat that he was crazy and he killed his wife. Then it was almost confirmed for me when in one of his dreams she was bleeding from the stomach. I was like, well, I guess he shot her and she didn't DIAF. There was all kinds of not-so-subtle foreshadowing.
I still liked it--a lot, even--I just thought it could have been a little better. But this movie is somewhat a victim of the abundance of movies the last 10 years in the "twist ending" genre. If it had come out before The Sixth Sense, it might be considered a masterpiece. Of course, it wouldn't have been the same movie, though.
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