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Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:30 pm to
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I thought she got angry and ran off because her big moment was ruined. People weren’t paying attention to her anymore. There was a scene earlier where she got angry at Camille because she noticed Camille wasn’t watching her perform.

Interesting thought, but I almost thought she looked more disturbed than jealous/angry
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:46 pm to
It just seems like her way to run off throwing a fit because things didn’t go her way, and make everyone worry about her. She embarrassed Camille earlier in the episode simply because Adora wouldn’t go in the dressing room with her.

They’ve shown throughout the show how vicious and manipulative Amma is when she doesn’t get what she wants. So when her big moment that she has been preparing for is ruined, she makes everyone think she was taken and maybe murdered.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:55 pm to
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I thought she got angry and ran off because her big moment was ruined. People weren’t paying attention to her anymore. There was a scene earlier where she got angry at Camille because she noticed Camille wasn’t watching her perform.

That has more to do with sibling rivalry than anything else. Which this episode highlighted more than the previous four. Amma wants Camille's approval because she seems bigger than Wind Gap.

I do find it interesting that Adora was damn near giggling at her teenage daughter acting out a play about a gangrape. But then again, Adora is two faced and you never know which performance you'll get out of her (The whole crying and screaming at the end of last nights episode was a bit much).

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I noticed the “Shallow Day” thing. Don’t know what it meant. One thing I noticed that doesn’t get talked about much is Marian just chilling on that bench or whatever upstairs by the bedrooms. I noticed it way back in the first episode, but I think people just assumed it was Amma. It’s happened a couple more times, and it definitely wasn’t Amma. It’s just a weird background thing that they never even focus on lol.

I know in earlier episodes. Marian would only appear when Camille was in the house. It's supposed to be gloomy & subtle.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:57 pm to
Before Amma freaked out she was focusing on Camille talking to Kansas City. I am pretty sure they were conveying jealousy and the ecstasy she took made her freak out. She’s only 13 years old
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:59 pm to
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It just seems like her way to run off throwing a fit because things didn’t go her way, and make everyone worry about her. She embarrassed Camille earlier in the episode simply because Adora wouldn’t go in the dressing room with her.

They’ve shown throughout the show how vicious and manipulative Amma is when she doesn’t get what she wants. So when her big moment that she has been preparing for is ruined, she makes everyone think she was taken and maybe murdered.


Do we know for a fact that Amma took Camille's clothing in the dressing room. It was clear that she was upset about the story going viral. But that seems more connected to Amma wanting to be in control of the situation. I never got the vibe that this play meant a great deal to Amma. It's just apart of the role she plays to make sure Adora is somewhat happy/stable. Hell, Amma did a bit of ecstasy beforehand.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Did anyone catch the "Shallow Day" bit?



Yep. Pretty accurate representation of the shallowness of people in the town who don't want to admit that it could be one of the "haves" that's a killer and not a "have not" like Bob Nash or John Keene.

For as twisted as Amma is, I'd probably have to drop some Molly to deal with Adora and that crazy shite show of a town too. She's undoubtedly damaged, manipulative, and twisted but she's only a fraction of what that crazy bitch Adora is. Christ.

I'm crushing on Kansas City.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:14 pm to
It had to be Amma. She wanted to make Camille pay for Adora basically choosing Camille over her. She knew about Camille’s cutting, but she clearly didn’t know how bad it was. Then we see Amma be sweet to Camille after, and picked out a dress that was actually perfect for that person in that situation.

She has done this before, being horrible to Camille then apologizing and being sweet. What reason would Adora or the other woman have to take the clothes and make Camille come out in her underwear?

I don’t think the play was important to her. I think the attention was important to her, and they clearly focused on her looking at the crowd to make sure people were watching. That’s when she saw Camille not watching, and her facial expression changed.

At least that’s how interpreted that scene. Then attention was taken from her again, and she freaked out. Seems to be consistent with her character.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 2:22 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:14 pm to
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I thought she got angry and ran off because her big moment was ruined. People weren’t paying attention to her anymore. There was a scene earlier where she got angry at Camille because she noticed Camille wasn’t watching her perform.



I also took it as her getting angry that Camille was paying more attention to Kansas City than to her acting out the play. She craves Camille's attention because she's more "real" than Adora and the others in town.

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One thing I noticed that doesn’t get talked about much is Marian just chilling on that bench or whatever upstairs by the bedrooms. I noticed it way back in the first episode, but I think people just assumed it was Amma. It’s happened a couple more times, and it definitely wasn’t Amma. It’s just a weird background thing that they never even focus on lol.


I think people know is Marian but just assume it's the show's way of showing us that she really is a ghost in that house. That she's always there between the lines.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:16 pm to
Have they addressed the cause of her death? Maybe I just missed it
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:24 pm to
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It had to be Amma. She wanted to make Camille pay for Adora basically choosing Camille over her. She knew about Camille’s cutting, but she clearly didn’t know how bad it was. Then we see Amma he sweet to Camille after, and picked out a dress that was actually perfect for that person in that situation. She has done this before, being horrible to Camille then apologizing and being sweet. What reason would Adora or the other woman have to take the clothes and make Camille come out in her underwear?

Because Adora is ashamed of Camille because she's from her previous life and was "born cold". Amma is a dark curious pre-teen. She seeks Camille's approval in a very funky way.

Adora doesn't give a frick about Camille and really has no problem emotionally attacking her or making ppl (Kansas City) question her motives.

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I don’t think the play was important to her. I think the attention was important to her, and they clearly focused on her looking at the crowd to make sure people were watching. That’s when she saw Camille not watching, and her facial expression changed. At least that’s how interpreted that scene. Then attention was taken from her again, and she freaked out. Seems to be consistent with her character.

I go back to my sibling rivalry/seeking approval statement with this one. She had all of Wind Gaps attention during that play. But she's not seeking their approval. She wants Camille's.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:26 pm to
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It had to be Amma. She wanted to make Camille pay for Adora basically choosing Camille over her. She knew about Camille’s cutting, but she clearly didn’t know how bad it was. Then we see Amma be sweet to Camille after, and picked out a dress that was actually perfect for that person in that situation.



I think it was Adora to force her to not just get dressed in her regular clothes and walk out of Adora trying to force her to put on the revealing dresses that would show her scars. Remember she said, "I"m glad Amma saw that". Wouldn't at all be surprised if Adora staged that shite.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:26 pm to
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I think people know is Marian but just assume it's the show's way of showing us that she really is a ghost in that house. That she's always there between the lines.

Which is one of the reasons why Adora wants all of the town to visit her house for Calhoun Day. But she really doesn't want them to VISIT her house.

Also, the fact that the "endzone" and that old shed are so close to the Preaker's home is pretty messed up to me.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Have they addressed the cause of her death? Maybe I just missed it

I always assumed it was a stroke of some kind.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:35 pm to
Adora is way too concerned with how the behavior of her children makes people see her to have done that. Her main thing is for Camille not to embarrass her. Adora is more verbally abusive, and usually in a quiet way.

Amma on the other hand has shown she basically will do anything to embarrass you in front of anyone if she doesn’t get her way. And the way she talked to Camille back at the house, we’ve seen Amma behave that exact same way before after being mean to Camille. Also, taking someone’s clothes like that is a very teenager thing to do.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:37 pm to
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Adora is way too concerned with how the behavior of her children makes people see her to have done that. Her main thing is for Camille not to embarrass her. Adora is more verbally abusive, and usually in a quiet way.


Eh, at the same time she consistently puts Camille in positions where she is likely to embarrass her. For Adora, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:39 pm to
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Adora is way too concerned with how the behavior of her children makes people see her to have done that. Her main thing is for Camille not to embarrass her. Adora is more verbally abusive, and usually in a quiet way.

Amma on the other hand has shown she basically will do anything to embarrass you in front of anyone if she doesn’t get her way. And the way she talked to Camille back at the house, we’ve seen Amma behave that exact same way before after being mean to Camille. Also, taking someone’s clothes like that is a very teenager thing to do.


Are we talking about the candy in the hair incident when Amma was drunk?

Adora openly said that she was glad Amma saw her scars in the dressing room. All of this also happens after Sheriff Vickery warned her about her two daughters being in danger.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:39 pm to
Adora was genuinely devastated at what was happening, and cares too much about what people would be saying around town to have done that. Adora’s style is to sit Camille down for what seems like a nice conversation, then tell her she never loved her. I think there might be some overthinking going on here.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:41 pm to
Not when her pride and joy (Amma) is a bit obsessed with her older sister who got out of Wind Gap.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:44 pm to
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Adora was genuinely devastated at what was happening, and cares too much about what people would be saying around town to have done that. Adora’s style is to sit Camille down for what seems like a nice conversation, then tell her she never loved her. I think there might be some overthinking going on here.


Everything Adora does is calculated. Like I said, her comment “I’m glad Amma saw that” absolutely fits the narrative that she wants to continue to paint Camille as the fricked up, “outcast” child in her perfect little world.

And she certainly doesn’t want Amma putting Camille on a pedestal.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:44 pm to
Being glad Amma saw doesn’t mean she created that situation. I guess we’ll agree to disagree, but I feel like it’s pretty clear from everything we know about the behavior of all these characters, that it was Amma.
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