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re: Russell Brand Found Guilty of Rape

Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by taylork37
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Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:17 pm to
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What 'evidence' would that be? The case was 100% he said, she said.


Direct witness testimony is considered a form of direct evidence. And in this case, you have direct witness testimony from 6 complainants/accusers. Not to mention the large amount of indirect testimony from others.

The jury of his peers, in this case, 8 men and 4 women felt that the burden of proof was met.



Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
67998 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Direct witness testimony
Right, so 'she said' with nothing else.

And what she (rape conviction) said was that although she willingly ate his arse ten minutes after she met him and willingly had vaginal sex with him, he then put it in her arse, so RAPE!! All just because she said so.

The other convictions were a girl who said he pulled her into a bathroom stall and groped her, and one who said he stuck his face in her crotch while she was giving him a massage. Both based solely on testimony. After 20 years of not saying shite.

10 years. Just say you're a bootlicker, man.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 4:31 pm
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
16028 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:46 pm to
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Just say you're a bootlicker, man.


Says the dude in the echo chamber who clearly made up his mind before doing any research. Now you are just in confirmation bias mode. There is too much reporting on this and the evidence given at trial to just call this he said, she said. Not to mention the context of how much of a fricking pervert Brand has been over the years.

All because he turned to right wing politics, whether you admit it or not. If this was someone like Biden you would calling for his execution.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
29394 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:58 pm to
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There is too much reporting on this and the evidence given at trial to just call this he said, she said.


But that's all it is. You can dress it up any way you like but he said, she said is 100% accurate. And I really, really don't understand giving credibility to people who wait 15-20 years to decide that something wasn't consensual.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
16028 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 5:08 pm to

There is so much more nuance to it than he said she said, if you would actually dig into the testimony from the accusers and the secondary witnesses. You won't do that though. Not to mention how Russell went from not knowing some of these victims when asked to then all of a sudden knowing them and just claiming it was all consensual.

This whole "why did you wait" thing is such a cop out argument. The belief that no one will believe you if you come out against a celebrity is a real thing and it took the 2023 documentary for these victims to come forward because they now know it happened to others.

This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
29394 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 5:23 pm to
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This whole "why did you wait" thing is such a cop out argument.


I didn't ask why they waited and it's not an argument, it's a statement. Waiting that long heavily damages their credibility in my eyes, I don't care what the crime is. If it increases their credibility for you, that's fine. I find it laughable.

From what little I know of Brand it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he did at least some of what he's been accused of. It also wouldn't surprise me one bit if these are bullshite imaginary charges, so I don't think anybody should be going to jail. I think they should have been laughed out of the courtroom, and I'd say the exact same thing if Brand got reamed by Will Smith 20 years ago and in 2026 decided it was rape.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
67998 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 5:39 pm to
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There is too much reporting on this
So if the media reports on it a lot, it must be true?
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and the evidence given at trial to just call this he said, she said
That is all there was a trial. You even admitted it.
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how much of a fricking pervert Brand has been over the years.
So, like every male celebrity for decades. Okay, but getting laid is not rape, and that's all that can be proven as he attested to there being sex.
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Biden
A guy whose own daughter wrote in her diary that she couldn't shower during normal hours because her dad would get in with her. Good choice.

But if I saw the facts of a case against him and thought it was bullshite, I'd definitely say so. If he were to be falsely convicted, I would definitely note that such a thing could and would go both ways.

So, no. I wouldn;t be asking for his execution.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70331 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 5:41 pm to
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Courts literally found him guilty, the amount of delusion some of y'all choose to live in


Jeez man. Open your eyes already.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
16028 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:11 pm to
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So if the media reports on it a lot, it must be true?


Stop with the placeholder arguments. This isnt the media saying guilty/not guilty, its accounts of the actual testimony. Go actually do at least a quick Google search or something, its the least you can do.

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That is all there was a trial. You even admitted it
You have completely ignored what I posted. Its more than he said/ she said and I haven't said otherwise.

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So, like every male celebrity for decades
So you are saying that because male celebrities are perverts historically, who the frick should care about this?

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Okay, but getting laid is not rape, and that's all that can be proven as he attested to there being sex.
So the women attested to rape, but because all he attested to was sex, it couldnt be more than sex? Did you reread this before posting?

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A guy whose own daughter wrote in her diary that she couldn't shower during normal hours because her dad would get in with her. Good choice.
You cannot make this shite up . Is this not he said/she said according to your continued shitposting? Bro.

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But if I saw the facts of a case against him and thought it was bullshite, I'd definitely say so. If he were to be falsely convicted, I would definitely note that such a thing could and would go both ways.


Sure thing bud.

Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
16028 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:17 pm to
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Waiting that long heavily damages their credibility in my eyes, I don't care what the crime is. If it increases their credibility for you, that's fine. I find it laughable.


It doesnt increase credibility AT ALL, stop with the hyperbole. With that said unlike the PT board echo chamber, right wing, stooge thought process it doesnt completely negate the argument either like it does for you.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 6:25 pm
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
16028 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:21 pm to
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Jeez man. Open your eyes already


Oh the irony.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
67998 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:25 pm to
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its accounts of the actual testimony
It's the ,media repeating their claims, yes. It's not a verification of guilt. It's disturbing that you see that as such a powerful authority.
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Go actually do at least a quick Google search
Yeah, I have. He was a horn dog. So are a lot of celebs, and there are legions of women who enjoy indulging them. Doesn't mean they're rapists. Is this like some bizarro reverse slut shaming or something?
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So the women attested to rape, but because all he attested to was sex, it couldnt be more than sex?
No, dipshit. It means that him admitting to sex doesn't prove there was rape, nor does her testimony alone. And your claim that a 20 year delay is reasonable is disingenuous at best..
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You cannot make this shite up
I don't have to. Her diary is confirmed by the FBI.
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Sure thing bud.

Not everyone is a cheerleader like you, bud.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
16028 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:41 pm to
Unless you are going to respond to each of my comments with the context I provided, this argument is over.

Your brain cant do anything but dumb down the situation to the simplest "if this happened, then this has to be true" contextless arguments. Rinse repeat.


Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
67998 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:55 pm to
The rinse repeat is the now very familiar formula - multiple accusers from many years ago, total lack of physical evidence and complicit, sympathetic media and kangaroo courts, when they could get them. Whether it's a Supreme Court nominee or an actor in someone's way, it's always the same strategy.

The MeToo movement has been little more than a blackmail and destruction movement. Just say 'yay, the guy I don't like is in jail' and get it over with.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
16028 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:01 pm to
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The rinse repeat is the now very familiar formula - multiple accusers from many years ago, total lack of physical evidence and complicit, sympathetic media and kangaroo courts, when they could get them. Whether it's a Supreme Court nominee or an actor in someone's way, it's always the same strategy.

The MeToo movement has been little more than a blackmail and destruction movement. Just say 'yay, the guy I don't like is in jail' and get it over with.



Like I said, rinse and repeat. How long before you call me a libtard marxist.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
67998 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:12 pm to
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the PT board echo chamber, right wing, stooge
You keep saying this like it's the only possible explanation for someone disagreeing with you. That's textbook light-switch brain thinking.

An then you question other people's intelligence.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
16028 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:26 pm to
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You keep saying this like it's the only possible explanation for someone disagreeing with you. That's textbook light-switch brain thinking.


And you have repeated the same he said she said argument as the only explanation and it matches the large majority argument on the OT, MTV, and PT boards.

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An then you question other people's intelligence


Fair enough. Intelligence doesn't necessarily come in to play when you don't have a thought of your own.


Like I said before. Rinse, repeat.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70331 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:34 pm to
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Oh the irony.


You won't be able to quantify this.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
67998 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:41 pm to
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and it matches the large majority argument on the OT, MTV, and PT boards.
Yeah, that can't possibly mean that we're right. Surely, it must mean we're all MAGA zealots.
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Rinse, repeat.
Indeed
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
16028 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:59 pm to
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Yeah, that can't possibly mean that we're right.


Reddit would agree.

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Surely, it must mean we're all MAGA zealots.


Self awareness would like a word.

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