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re: Roger Ebert's 10 greatest films of all time
Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:02 am to UnluckyTiger
Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:02 am to UnluckyTiger
Justin Bieber: Never Say Never, 10/10, piece of God-Art
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Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:10 am to molsusports
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molsusports
Sounds like a fun debate to take up, but I don't have time.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:22 am to OBUDan
Menken is dead wrong about heart of darkness.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:30 am to secfan123
TBH, I'm so out of touch with my literary criticism, I can barely remember his stance.
But from everyone I've encountered, I'm one of the few that absolutely loves that novella.
But from everyone I've encountered, I'm one of the few that absolutely loves that novella.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 10:34 am to OBUDan
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But from everyone I've encountered, I'm one of the few that absolutely loves that novella.
one of my favorite twentieth century novels
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:20 am to OBUDan
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But from everyone I've encountered, I'm one of the few that absolutely loves that novella.
I loved it at first - I found the writing evocative and interesting when I first began to read it
But my sense of frustration grew gradually as I progressed through the novella - because it seemed to me Conrad was incapable of using his beautiful prose to good effect - it never did what it promised and was never intelligibly used as a device to show the reader something new and interesting about humanity
Coppola suffered from the same problem to large degree IMO. And if you judge him by his own quotes RE: the film it seems clear that he thought he fell short of what he set out to do.
This post was edited on 5/1/12 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:23 am to molsusports
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But my sense of frustration grew gradually as I progressed through the novella - because it seemed to me Conrad was incapable of using his beautiful prose to good effect - it should done what it promised and been used as a device to show the reader something new and interesting about humanity
first of all, very little art actually shows something new and interesting about humanity.
However, in the millieu in which conrad wrote, it was quite a shock that perhaps empire wasnt the great white hope it was imagined to be. HEart of darkness, jekyll and hyde, picture of dorian grey, all make similar statements about humanity. These statements are not new, but that isnt the point of art. The point is to say them in interesting ways, and heart of darkness did that in spades.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:24 am to Cosmo
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Apocalypse Now does nothing for me
Easily one of my top 5 all time favorites. I could watch it over and over.
Posted on 5/1/12 at 11:37 am to secfan123
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These statements are not new, but that isnt the point of art. The point is to say them in interesting ways, and heart of darkness did that in spades.
I disagree with that premise when it comes to serious literature.
It is pretty near a prerequisite for a writer to be interesting - that was the part that Conrad did very successfully. But the pieces just don't come together for Conrad - he never fully decides what comment he wants to make about man's nature. My annoyance is ironic in a certain sense - because I love certain degrees of ambiguity when it comes to literature - but I was frustrated by this work because it just promised more than it could deliver.
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