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Posted on 4/13/24 at 2:13 pm to bird35
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watched and enjoyed them but I can’t figure out if the Bene Gesserit are good or bad.
Easiest rule of thumb, they are all bad. Everyone in Dune is bad.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 5:00 pm to bluestem75
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Never watched the 84 version because it’s so campy bad.
How do you know its campy and bad if you haven't seen it?
Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:51 am to Ham Solo
I feel like I would have been lost without the '84 version. The people I know who hadn't seen it were very lost. The talking intro from '84 plus the navigator scene help a lot.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:57 am to Ham Solo
Reading the books now. I’ll check back in
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:13 am to Ham Solo
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There are a shite ton of details in these movies directed straight at readers that movie watchers won't get after 5 viewings.
You’re outlining this like a bad thing, when I would say this speaks to how great this movie is that both the masses can enjoy along without everything spoonfed directly to them as well as with people who understand and are interested in the lore feeling like the story accomplished the impossible task of filming the ideas/themes/plot of Dune.
Certainly that leads to some folks completely misunderstanding the point of Paul’s character at points, but atleast it doesn’t actively change the point of Paul’s character like the 84 version.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 12:03 pm to Ham Solo
I never read the books. I saw the Lynch version when it came out and despite its cheesy effects I still enjoyed it and understood it.
I’ve really enjoyed these latest movies. The acting and the special effects have been spectacular. You can tell when you compare the movies which lines and scenes must have come directly from the books, because they’re almost identical.
One major difference I’ve noticed is the weirding modules from the first movie. Seemed to be a huge part of the first movie but they’re nonexistent in these newer movies. I thought maybe they saved them for the end of the movie when Gurney said they hid secret weapons in the cave but those were just missiles it seems.
What’s the truth about those weapons?
I’ve really enjoyed these latest movies. The acting and the special effects have been spectacular. You can tell when you compare the movies which lines and scenes must have come directly from the books, because they’re almost identical.
One major difference I’ve noticed is the weirding modules from the first movie. Seemed to be a huge part of the first movie but they’re nonexistent in these newer movies. I thought maybe they saved them for the end of the movie when Gurney said they hid secret weapons in the cave but those were just missiles it seems.
What’s the truth about those weapons?
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 4/14/24 at 12:29 pm to Rjlebla
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One major difference I’ve noticed is the weirding modules from the first movie. Seemed to be a huge part of the first movie but they’re nonexistent in these newer movies. I thought maybe they saved them for the end of the movie when Gurney said they hid secret weapons in the cave but those were just missiles it seems.
The weirding modules are a Lynch invention for the 1984 film. In the book, Paul and Jessica teach the Fremen the “Weirding Way”, which is the Bene Gesserit form of hand to hand combat, to enhance their fighting prowess. Denis skipped this altogether with “desert power” being enough to give the Fremen the edge.
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