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re: Question about Shawshank: Andy revealing the scams.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 12:01 am to UndercoverBryologist
Posted on 4/2/24 at 12:01 am to UndercoverBryologist
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As is pointed out in The Untouchables, you actually need the testimony of a witness to discuss hard pieces of evidence in a trial. Andy mails out the ledger, but as Andy has fled to Mexico and wouldn’t come back for a trial as a witness, would the ledger even be admissible in court?
It didn’t really matter how it would have turned out in court. The newspaper printed the story, which was sensational enough to get a warrant for Norton and Hadley.
I always assumed Andy probably signed his own name on the letter, not trying to hide his identity. By the time it was received, he had already cleaned out all the money, and in the 60’s would basically be untraceable from that point on. Once he crossed the border he was never coming back.
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 12:05 am to UndercoverBryologist
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We’re obviously seeing a truncated timeline of what occurred when the crimes were revealed.
But...you hear the sirens of the Statewide police force bearing down on Shawshank just as the Warden opens the newspaper...
I mean obviously you can't arrest people on a newspaper article without an investigation...
DA doesn't run his ship by the newspaper, its the other way around. Andy has the swindling accounting. As for murder it would just be writing a letter of allegations, from an escaped convict. But reality makes the movie 5 hours long.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:59 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The real mystery here is why someone bumped a 3 year old topic with their first ever post.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 9:20 am to keks tadpole
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How did Andy know that the sewer-line was a straight shot to a creek?
probably common practice in the 60s
Posted on 4/2/24 at 9:23 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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I mean obviously you can't arrest people on a newspaper article without an investigation...
DA doesn't run his ship by the newspaper, its the other way around. Andy has the swindling accounting. As for murder it would just be writing a letter of allegations, from an escaped convict. But reality makes the movie 5 hours long.
I'm sure once Paper got the info, they called contacts in DA's office.
DA tells them keep a lid on story until they can finish investigating.
DA tells paper "we got him! picking him up in morning!"
Paper runs story as units are en route to get him.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:00 am to Nutriaitch
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I'm sure once Paper got the info, they called contacts in DA's office.
DA tells them keep a lid on story until they can finish investigating.
DA tells paper "we got him! picking him up in morning!"
Paper runs story as units are en route to get him.
I mean you can look at Waco as an example of this. Feds tried to keep the locals from running a story before they did their raid unsuccessfully and then even after that were still slipping info to the locals to get a camera crew out there for their impressive raid on religious nutjobs.
The truncated timeline is a good explanation. It doesn't just happen immediately after Andy escapes, reporters take time to work with cops and their own investigation to dig up the story completely.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:13 am to DaleGribble
quote:Here's the attention you were looking for. Feel good?
The fact that this film is still the highest rated movie of all time on imdb is one of the great mysteries to me. It's a chick flick for guys. It's not even the best prison movie of all time or the best movie from the year that it was released.
And people were pissed when Gone With The Wind and Citizen Kane held that spot?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:12 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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As is pointed out in The Untouchables, you actually need the testimony of a witness to discuss hard pieces of evidence in a trial.
Ok. But you don’t need that for an arrest. They could have easily flipped half the guards to testify before trial.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:04 pm to UndercoverBryologist
He had enough in the financials to get him arrested on fraud/financial crimes/etc. Then he probably tied him to many prison murders. They came to arrest him for the money crimes, but he knew based on the press stuff that they would launch a full scale investigation into the murders and all goings on at Shawshank under his watch. Warden knew he was fricked and ate a bullet.
Of course they arrested Hadley too, but they didn’t say for what.
Of course they arrested Hadley too, but they didn’t say for what.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:32 pm to Nutriaitch
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I'm sure once Paper got the info, they called contacts in DA's office.
DA tells them keep a lid on story until they can finish investigating.
DA tells paper "we got him! picking him up in morning!"
Paper runs story as units are en route to get him.
The flaw in that theory is Norton appears shocked and surprised when he opens the newspaper.
Any investigation into mere allegations would require questioning.... Interrogation... At least an interview. I don't know what was in Warden Norton's book but it had to be compelling enough to arrest him.
As for the murder headline, no way they can print that.
As the OP's question persists, Andy has just an allegation...we don't know what accompanied the ledger book.but it appears just to be a letter of accusations and the paper takes it at face value to save the movie viewers patience. It's funny for a movie so beloved, it has tons of issues people argue about over the Internet.This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:25 am to UndercoverBryologist
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I’m assuming “murder” refers to Tommy,
The fat guy as well
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