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re: Parasite (2019)
Posted on 2/9/20 at 6:56 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 2/9/20 at 6:56 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Great movie and even greater plot twist
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:47 am to hubertcumberdale
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The poor people pissed me off though. Not only did they do everything they could to frick over the other poor working class servants for the rich family, but the rich family seemed to be good, respectable people. They never belittled or did anything wrong to the servants other than be somewhat offended by the smell of the driver. Even then, he didnt tell him he smelled bad explicitly or did anything to let him know he smelled like shite.
exactly, the Kims were never supposed to be the heros or protagonists of the movie.
They were..........parasites
Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:17 pm to RollTide4Ever
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I think it'll win Best Picture.
This aged well
Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:41 pm to audodger
I'm absolutely dying to see this a 2nd time this week. 
Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:09 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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maybe I had missed the message that they seem to be praising so much.
I've seen people claim that the "parasite" of the movie is the capitalist system and that the movie overall is an allegory about how the capitalist system breeds class conflict and inequality. Bong hasn't stated that specifically, but he has stated it is about capitalism directly. The prevailing sentiment of South Korean youth is anti-capitalist, so take that for what it is. If you look on social media, communist and socialist groups love this movie. That's what they believe the overall message is, that capitalism causes class conflict and evil.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:33 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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I've seen people claim that the "parasite" of the movie is the capitalist system and that the movie overall is an allegory about how the capitalist system breeds class conflict and inequality. Bong hasn't stated that specifically, but he has stated it is about capitalism directly. The prevailing sentiment of South Korean youth is anti-capitalist, so take that for what it is. If you look on social media, communist and socialist groups love this movie. That's what they believe the overall message is, that capitalism causes class conflict and evil.
The message went way over my head I think. The movie made out the poor family to be terrible people, willing to frick over anyone and everyone for their own personal gain. Not only that, but the actions of the poor dad at the end proved he was the pettiest of them all, willing to lash out, out of literally no where basically unprovoked. Is this capitalism's fault, or just the fact the the poor family are shitty people? Plenty of poor families are not absolute pieces of shite willing to exploit anyone they come into contact with. This is where the message lost me.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:10 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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I've seen people claim that the "parasite" of the movie is the capitalist system and that the movie overall is an allegory about how the capitalist system breeds class conflict and inequality.
Ok thanks that makes a lot of sense then why it seems to be getting so much praise from the Hollywood.
Like the above poster I didn’t pick up on that at all but figured there had to be some interpretation like that that I just missed.
I’d argue similar to that poster as well that this just seemed like a terrible group of people at the core. There is the argument that money corrupts, but there is also the argument that money just brings out your true inner nature without limits.
The rich family seemed to be mostly good, and the life they lived reflected that. The poor family was not, and the more they got, the more that became obvious.
Even the first maid and her husband didn’t really seem bad, at least not like the parasite family, although the husband had clearly gone mad over the years.
They represented more of the “just trying to survive” type, even buying food for him with her own wages, and didn’t flip on the other family until they realized how rotten they were and that they had been the reason things turned so bad for them.
I just find it strange that South Koreans would be so anti-capitalist when they’ve seen what socialism/communism has done to the populations of the countries all around them. Do they believe the “working class” are better off there than they are in South Korea or America?
Are North Korea, Russia, and China truly the models the youth of the world want to emulate? If so, why?
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:15 pm to hubertcumberdale
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The movie made out the poor family to be terrible people, willing to frick over anyone and everyone for their own personal gain. Not only that, but the actions of the poor dad at the end proved he was the pettiest of them all, willing to lash out, out of literally no where basically unprovoked. Is this capitalism's fault, or just the fact the the poor family are shitty people? Plenty of poor families are not absolute pieces of shite willing to exploit anyone they come into contact with. This is where the message lost me.
I’m confused as to why you’re confused by this message. Poor people can’t be shitty people sometimes? What’s so crazy about that? And of course not all poor families are pieces of shite, that’s not what it’s saying
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:22 pm to jg8623
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I’m confused as to why you’re confused by this message. Poor people can’t be shitty people sometimes? What’s so crazy about that? And of course not all poor families are pieces of shite, that’s not what it’s saying
How does any of that tie into capitalism and class division/conflict? People are shitty whether they have money or not, is my point and the message I gathered from this movie.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:26 pm to hubertcumberdale
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People are shitty whether they have money or not, is my point and the message I gathered from this movie.
I agree. And that’s the main message I got as well. If some people took it as a message on capitalism, then that’s how they saw it. People interpret things differently. I guess those people could say that capitalism instills too much greed in people and causes them to do shitty things
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:35 pm to jg8623
One of the posters a few posts prior said Bong explicitly said it was about capitalism, not sure if thats true or not
But to your point
I can see that and kind of agree with that, but imo this movie made me think that the poor smelly family were just POS's regardless of money. They would have been POS's as poors and would have been POS's as rich
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I've seen people claim that the "parasite" of the movie is the capitalist system and that the movie overall is an allegory about how the capitalist system breeds class conflict and inequality. Bong hasn't stated that specifically, but he has stated it is about capitalism directly.
But to your point
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I guess those people could say that capitalism instills too much greed in people and causes them to do shitty things
I can see that and kind of agree with that, but imo this movie made me think that the poor smelly family were just POS's regardless of money. They would have been POS's as poors and would have been POS's as rich
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:49 pm to hubertcumberdale
I haven’t seen it, probably won’t see it because I don’t watch many movies or shows, but isn’t Bong really into class? Like it’s a common theme in his movies? I mean the movie is called “parasite.” I would think that would be the biggest hint of all..
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:04 pm to HogFanfromHTown
If I was the filmmaker I would not be insistent that there was a message behind the movie. Better to let the audience decide for themselves. Also, youth are always socialist then most grow up.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:07 pm to Huge Richard
This is straight from Bong
GQ interview
So there you have it. He’s seems to be a realist who is really fascinated by class. Again haven’t seen it, but it doesn’t sound like there is an explicit political message... just hey this is how life really is for certain groups of people.
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Something I was struck by in the movie is that there's a huge lack of class solidarity between the various working class people. What inspired you to write the relationships that way?
You point out something very important. You know, in Mother, you see the have nots and the needy clawing at each other and hurting one another. On the other hand, in The Host, you see the solidarity between them, they save each other and they gather their strengths together. And you could say Parasite is closer to Mother, where the weak and have nots are fighting one another. And that's sad, but it's also realistic. And from those moments, you get this element of sadness, but also the comedy, as well.
GQ interview
So there you have it. He’s seems to be a realist who is really fascinated by class. Again haven’t seen it, but it doesn’t sound like there is an explicit political message... just hey this is how life really is for certain groups of people.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:10 pm to Huge Richard
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Again haven’t seen it, but it doesn’t sound like there is an explicit political message... just hey this is how life really is for certain groups of people.
Yea, just because a movie portrays a certain subject, that doesn’t always mean it’s for or against whatever it’s portraying.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:12 pm to Huge Richard
SK's economy is not too different from ours, high protectionist, etc. Would Biddy Mason or Andrew Carnegie be possible today? No, Andy would be trying to become a wall street trader or big shot lawyer.
A reviewer made a salient point about the boy's friend in the movie. The kid mentioned subtly mention how his grandfather graduated from SK's version of West Point----no doubt, an incubator for elites esp. during SK's dictatorship days.
A reviewer made a salient point about the boy's friend in the movie. The kid mentioned subtly mention how his grandfather graduated from SK's version of West Point----no doubt, an incubator for elites esp. during SK's dictatorship days.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:00 pm to hubertcumberdale
Why does a movie have to have done some underlying or interpreted message? Can it not just be an interesting story, capitalism or not?
I’m not trying to be an arse. Does every movie need to make a statement, or can it just be interesting? Example, I thought Parasite was a good watch, but capitalism never entered my mind.
I’m not trying to be an arse. Does every movie need to make a statement, or can it just be interesting? Example, I thought Parasite was a good watch, but capitalism never entered my mind.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:17 pm to jg8623
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I agree. And that’s the main message I got as well. If some people took it as a message on capitalism, then that’s how they saw it. People interpret things differently. I guess those people could say that capitalism instills too much greed in people and causes them to do shitty things
I think people see a movie and have their own spin if the movie is quality enough.
I heard all sorts of white guilt things about Get Out, saw it, and interpreted as shitting on NE liberals, not all white men.
Knives Out was supposed to be an FU to Trump voters, but I saw it as saying people all over the spectrum will become a-holes to get money.
Nobody was sitting around trying to interpret Charlie’s Angels.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:19 pm to 3nOut
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Knives Out was supposed to be an FU to Trump voters, but I saw it as saying people all over the spectrum will become a-holes to get money.
Watched Knives Out over the weekend for the first time. Whoever got that from the movie needs to go to therapy
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:03 pm to jg8623
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Watched Knives Out over the weekend for the first time. Whoever got that from the movie needs to go to therapy
The closest thing was dumping on the little alt-right troll and that was hilarious.
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