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re: Official: Zack Snyder's Cut of Justice League coming to HBO Max in 2021
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:24 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:24 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Not sure where you're getting 50+ million (I'm seeing 20 to 30 Mill quoted),
Chairman of WarnerMedia and head of HBO Mac, Bob Greenblatt, was on the Vox Recode Media podcast the other day. He said it would be more than $30 million, but he didn't say $50.
“Because it isn’t as easy as going into the vault and there’s a Snyder Cut sitting there to put out,” explained Greenblatt. “It does not exist. Zack is actually building it and it’s complex including…new VFX shots, it’s a radical rethinking of that movie and it’s complicated and wildly expensive.”
“I’ll just say I wish it was just 30 million and stop there. It’s an enormous undertaking and very complex.”
*the quotes come from a summary of the content in the podcast from The Playlist.net. The Recode Media podcast is easily found on any podcatcher.
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 4:36 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Snyder is finishing a mini-series or double-length film with major star power, for a fraction of what it would cost to produce similar content with similar star draw. This thing is a steal.
I'm not sure how you get that spending another $20-$50 million on a movie that has already cost $300 million minus marketing to make is a steal?
If Disney also spent another $50 million to make a Rise of the Skywalker a mini series for D+ would that be a steal too?
Posted on 5/26/20 at 4:38 pm to Jay Are
Posted on 5/26/20 at 4:46 pm to Freauxzen
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All I mean, is he wasn't wrangled by the studio, he had typical Director level control, which 90% of movies are under.
He wasn't given carte blanche, no, but most directors aren't and produce great film regardless of their level of control. MoS failure have nothing to do with control - the DCEU as a whole might, but again, a lot of the was ALSO obviously problematic in MoS, which is why that film is the way it is - a bad take on Superman and an aggressively average film with no core values, no direction, and a bad case of mimicry.
Do you know who wrote Man of Steel? Do you know why the tone was what it was? Do you know whose idea that was?
I do. And the answer to those questions is not Zack Snyder.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 4:49 pm to Dr RC
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I'm not sure how you get that spending another $20-$50 million on a movie that has already cost $300 million minus marketing to make is a steal?
They've already posted those Justice League losses to their 2017 and 2018 books. The talent fees are paid and done with. The Snyder footage is just sitting there. For $30-whatever-million they can have a special effects heavy mini-series starring Ben Affleck, Gal Gadot, Jason MaMoa, and Henry Cavill. That's a fraction of what that would've cost if the majority of the film wasn't already in the can.
quote:If they had an extra four hours of movie just sitting there and they didn't have to pay a penny to the actors to make it? Yes. That's a steal. Mandelorian had a budget of over $100 Mill. The new Marvel series have budgets of $150 to $200 Mill. As hungry as the streaming services are for content, it makes sense to turn lemons into lemonade.
If Disney also spent another $50 million to make a Rise of the Skywalker a mini series for D+ would that be a steal too?
Posted on 5/26/20 at 4:54 pm to TheeRealCarolina
I've always found it interesting how Nolan got a pass for this.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:07 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Do you know who wrote Man of Steel? Do you know why the tone was what it was? Do you know whose idea that was?
I do. And the answer to those questions is not Zack Snyder.
I sure hope you aren't trying to say it's Nolan?
Quote from Goyer regarding Superman killing Zod:
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Originally Chris didn't even want to let us try to write it and Zack and I said, 'We think we can figure out a way that you'll buy it.'"
At the end of the day, it's 100% Snyder's movie. Acting like it's not is strange.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:09 pm to Proximo
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Harry Lennix teases Martian Manhunter for Snyder Cut
Harry Lennix posts wink emoji!
(I hope we do see some mention of J'onn, but I'm not holding my breath.)
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:10 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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If they had an extra four hours of movie just sitting there and they didn't have to pay a penny to the actors to make it? Yes. That's a steal.
Except it sounds like they need re-shoots and will be paying actors again. Also re-opens residuals costs with a new movie/series.
and 2021? love to see their plan considering they cant shoot until the world opens back up. Henry is going back to the witcher first. then they have to edit and cut it all together?
Publicity stunt right now.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:21 pm to NOSA
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At the end of the day, it's 100% Snyder's movie.
Again, absolutely false.
And Goyer is Chris and Jonah’s sock puppet. Jonah wanted Zod to die in the ship crash, Chris wanted him in the Phantom Zone, Zack wanted him to die because WB told him that he was starting a movie universe after production started.
These tent poles are never 100% what the director wants, especially not when it’s Zack Snyder in 2013.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:21 pm to BlacknGold
quote:They've said no. They will not pay for reshoots.
Except it sounds like they need re-shoots and will be paying actors again.
quote:That's the point of residuals. It's a part of any distribution equation. It's no different than putting the original Justice League movie on Hulu or some other service.
Also re-opens residuals costs with a new movie/series.
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and 2021? love to see their plan considering they cant shoot until the world opens back up. Henry is going back to the witcher first. then they have to edit and cut it all together?
Henry isn't reshooting anything. No one is.
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Publicity stunt right now.
They sure have you interested.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:36 pm to RollTide1987
It blows my mind that people think this will be any good
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:39 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Personally I hope it’s such a huge hit that BatFleck changes his mind, WarnerMedia changes their mind, & we get a BatFleck & BatFamily movie.
The more I’m reading about The Batman and how “grounded” they are trying to make it, the more worried I am.
The more I’m reading about The Batman and how “grounded” they are trying to make it, the more worried I am.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 5:41 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Do you know who wrote Man of Steel? Do you know why the tone was what it was? Do you know whose idea that was?
I do. And the answer to those questions is not Zack Snyder.
I guess the similar visual style and tone in Sucker Punch was Nolan's fault also.
And just so people are clear, tone is not something totally dictated by a script. If it were, fewer directors would struggle so mightily to control it. A dark and serious tone isn't necessarily a problem if the director hired can get the right performances from his actors -- something we've never seen Snyder do.
It's also disingenuous to imply that Snyder had no idea what kind of tonal requirements the script had. He was not hired late in development as a mercenary director. He was hired after the first draft was completed, three years before the movie's eventual release. Major studio productions don't start filming after one draft or two or three. He was involved in almost all of Man of Steel's tangible development. If he thought the tone was a problem for him, he would have worked with Goyer to change it.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:13 pm to BilJ
Mainly to see Batman going to the brink of killing him after he and Harley killed Dick.
That’s why he has the damaged tattoo and the metal grill.
That’s why he has the damaged tattoo and the metal grill.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:16 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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that BatFleck changes his mind, WarnerMedia changes their mind, & we get a BatFleck & BatFamily movie.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
BatFleck got a raw deal.
Now we have a Batmobile from The Fast & Furious franchise.
Now we have a Batmobile from The Fast & Furious franchise.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:21 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Batfleck is gone, get over it.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:24 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Posted on 5/26/20 at 6:26 pm to RLDSC FAN
Easy, I’ll always hang on to a live action Frank Miller inspired Batman.
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