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re: Official Better Call Saul Season 3 Episode 5: Chicanery

Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:44 am to
Posted by vandelay industries
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:44 am to
If it was real life, no way it happens. But it's television, so I won't rule it out, lol...

I just started watching Sneaky Pete (only 3 episodes in), and Pete's ex still covers for him when needed, despite that she has her life on track & in order...I don't know how it'll play out in the end, but it wouldn't shock me if Pete somehow gets her back into the game full-time. In real life, I'd say "not a chance", but this is TV we're talking about. Similarly, I wouldn't be totally shocked if the normally even-keeled Kim accidentally inserted herself into a situation she can't get out of, and as a result goes "all in" with Jimmy....who knows, but it's fun to speculate...
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:47 am to
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What if he gets disbarred but then makes a fake identify (or steals one) for Saul?


He is still practicing in Albuquerque. Everyone in the justice system there knows his face. Changing his name doesn't mean everyone forgets who he is.
Posted by vandelay industries
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:54 am to
To add...Kim has alot on her plate that can go sideways. That whole Mesa Verde thing could blow up in her face for all we know, and perhaps in a vulnerable moment, makes a poor decision she can't undo, pretty much leaving her little choice but to align herself with Jimmy for better or worse. If something like Jimmy & Kim working together post-BCS does happen, it doesn't necessarily has to be because she wants to, but maybe because she has to...
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:55 am to
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Prequel..BB events..then Gene.

Sorta like a trinity saga. I hope.


I doubt we see much more of Gene. Saul must have called the guy who makes people disappear and that's how Gene came to be. He is living out the rest of his days in hiding. Doing his meaningless job and staying hidden. That's why he hesitated when the cops dragged the shoplifter away earlier in the season. But he couldn't help himself but to tell the kid to get a lawyer.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:57 am to
All I can say is that you are way off base in your understanding of the plot of Sneaky Pete too.
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 10:58 am to
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Saul must have called the guy who makes people disappear and that's how Gene came to be.


Must have? Did you watch BB?
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:00 am to
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I'm starting to wonder if Ham read a spoiler about this and wants to be the smart guy who "figured it out all along."


No. I just expected a break up like everyone else. They had it all set up to happen at the start of this season. Jimmy was busted with the tape which could have easily ruined things for Kim. That didn't happen though. When Kim asked Jimmy for the dollar I thought it was very suspicious and that is when I began thinking she helps Jimmy/Saul.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:01 am to
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I doubt we see much more of Gene. 


Really? The Gene storyline will be the conclusion to BCS. I almost think we get a whole season of Gene but at minimum a will get a full episode
Posted by ELVIS U
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:03 am to
Damn, you nailed it.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:05 am to
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at minimum a will get a full episode


Yeah, an epilogue. The show will probably end with Saul getting in the car leaving New Mexico. Maybe a single follow up episode with Gene as an epilogue, but not a whole season. What would the season be about? How long it takes to cook cinnabuns?
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:06 am to
Yeah, like 5 years ago. And the ending as it came out. I need to rewatch it.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:07 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:07 am to
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Ham Solo


Your theory is so mind boggling stupid it's almost beyond comprehension. As of this second, the only thing any viewer knows about Saul Goodman is in the BB universe, considering he hasn't been introduced to the BCS universe yet. There is literally nothing, at all, whatsoever in BBworld that would even casually allude to Kim and Saul being in any kind of tandem. And all your "proof" that essentially boils down to "Kim took some questionable legal actions to help Jimmy" doesn't mean diddly poo. So what? who cares if she did? Jimmy isn't Saul yet. How do you make the gargantuan leap from Kim helping Jimmy McGill to being some sort of silent partner for Saul Goodman? It's lunacy!


You've also been hellbent on saying K+J=S, as if they're some kind of batman and robin duo. But I guess you realize how retarded that sounds and have since walked off that, now saying:

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I don't mean Kim will be at his office doing half the work. When I say she is half of Saul I simply mean she will know what he is up to and she will help when a situation needs her particular skill set.


Kinda like Mike has already done thus far (and clearly does again in BB world)? Kinda like how Saul's secretary makes the fake hospital phone call to Hank when he's in the junkyard with the RV? Are they each 1/3 of Saul?

No you moron, Saul goodman is Saul Goodman. As in, it's the guy played by bob odenkirk that used to be Jimmy McGill that at some point at a later date starts going by Saul Goodman. The end.

Posted by musick
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:09 am to
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What would the season be about? How long it takes to cook cinnabuns?


It's obvious Saul isn't content with being Gene. It could be about him trying to get back in the game somehow.

Could also be about Kim tracking down Kim

When he's watching the Saul tapes you can tell he's conjuring something up.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:11 am
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:10 am to
I think it's an interesting theory but there is some serious confirmation bias going on.

Like I don't get how the Royals shirt/backpack is evidence of it. Obviously it refers to Kim somehow but to me it sounds more plausible that Kim is from the midwest and that's why Jimmy chooses to relocate there. It doesn't scream "Kim is the brains behind Saul Goodman"

ETA I think it's certainly plausible that Kim is involved in the creation of Saul, but I don't think she is still involved with Jimmy during BB. I think she's either A.) Dead B.) Has cut ties with Jimmy C.) Fled/left ABQ
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:13 am to
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When he's watching the Saul tapes you can tell he's conjuring something up.


Or he is just remembering fondly his past life. Realizing how terrible his life is now as Gene. He clearly isn't happy working as a manager at a dessert place at the mall. I just don't see any entertaining plot lines with Gene. Not saying it won't happen, but I don't think it will.
Posted by ELVIS U
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:13 am to
No, he just changes his name
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:17 am to
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Or he is just remembering fondly his past life. Realizing how terrible his life is now as Gene. He clearly isn't happy working as a manager at a dessert place at the mall. I just don't see any entertaining plot lines with Gene. Not saying it won't happen, but I don't think it will.




I got vibes of Walt working in the car wash during this season's flash forward, even before he passed out. I think they are definitely teasing that Gene will turn back into Jimmy/Saul at some point. Maybe not in name but he may have unfinished business with someone like Chuck or Kim
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:18 am to
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WG_Dawg


Take a deep breath. It's going to be okay.

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But I guess you realize how retarded that sounds and have since walked off that


I haven't backed off one bit. I simply think that Kim will be by Jimmy/Saul's side all the way through BB helping Saul with his dirty deeds when a situation calls for her help.

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As of this second, the only thing any viewer knows about Saul Goodman is in the BB universe


bullshite, we see him go into Saul mode all the time. The only difference is he is dealing with senior citizens and not criminals, and he is not using the name Saul.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:18 am to
What if Gene didn't pass out. What if he died? What if he realized his life was completely meaningless at that point and just killed over?
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:19 am to
I'm not against the idea of J + K = S, but I feel like we need more to support it before I can fully dive in. What other evidence do you feel supports this theory?
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