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Mutiny on the Bounty

Posted on 3/18/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 1:49 pm
I just finished a movie kick of watching the four surviving film versions of the story of the HMS Bounty and its mutiny. The only version that I had seen previously was the Mel Gibson/Anthony Hopkins film (which I had left the theater with the sole memory of "titties").

My recent interest was launched by a viewing of Ruggles of Red Gap on TCM. Charles Laughton played one of the earliest "fish out of water" characters as a British Butler lost in a card game to new employers in the American west. Laughton did an amazing job of playing the effeminate eyerolling butler and I was amazed to find that he had played the iconic villain of William Bligh in the same year.

The four surviving films (an Australian silent version existed at one time):

In the Wake of the Bounty (1933)
An odd Australian film that is a mixture of a travelogue and a historical adventure film. It mixes badly acted vignettes of the mutiny with then-present-day footage of the descendants of the mutineers on Pitcairn Island. It's claim to fame is that it's the first appearance of Errol Flynn on film (as Fletcher Christian). At this point it's mostly interesting for Flynn and as a document of what Pitcairn Island was like at the start of the 1930's.

Mutiny on the Bounty (1935)

This is the film that all other versions are measured by. My only exposure to it was through the Bugs Bunny parody and from impressionists in the 1960's doing their take on Bligh and Christian. I have to say, for a film made in the 30's, it stands up extremely well. Laughton gives Bligh layers of greed and spite and jealousy that make for an impressive character. Gable is fricking heroic as Christian. I wasn't a fan of his until seeing this movie.
Historians and biographers were mixed on what happened on the Bounty. Seems like the current take is that Bligh wasn't the animal portrayed in this film. But after Laughton was finished with it, Bligh was shorthand for tyrannical leader.

Mutiny on the Bounty (1962)

You can see from the start of the film why audiences were shocked by Marlon Brando's take on Fletcher Christian. Everyone still had Clark Gable's heroic man's man in their minds and Brando played him as an almost effeminate society playboy fop. He does have his heroic moments, but he keeps lapsing into playing the character as almost having a Scarlet Pimpernelish weak secret identity. Trevor Howard does a good job of playing a slightly less demonic Bligh. Richard Harris is on board as the leader of the mutineers. A decent film other than Brando's weirdness and his insistence on building a bizarre ending so that his character could get the last big scene.

Bounty (1984)
The most sympathetic Bligh to date. Anthony Hopkins gives the top notch performance that you would expect. Bligh's lunacy is a slow build in this one. I had no memory of Daniel Day Lewis or Liam Neeson being in this film, because they weren't name actors in '84. Lewis elevates the character of John Fryer to a major role, taking some of the villain weight off of Bligh's shoulders. Neeson takes Richard Harris' role as the head mutineer. Both do as well as you would expect them to. Gibson looks like an Errol Flynn or Clark Gable matinee idol, but he didn't do much with this role. Gibson is just there in the first half of the movie and then flips a switch and starts to chew the scenery. Christian isn't a man who's been pushed to his limit. He's a guy who goes insane from happiness on Tahiti and is ripe for Bligh's machinations. There was talk of this film showing some homo eroticism between the Bligh and Christian characters. I took it as being Bligh's jealousy of Christian's happiness. I think the gay erotica stuff came from everyone being dripping in sweat for the third act.
Oh, and, "titties".
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:30 pm to
seems like you'd rank them 35, 84, 62?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 4:14 pm to
35 first. Not sure in the other two.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 5:41 pm to
if you like the bounty story you must read Caroline alexanders book.
the "villainy" of Lt (not captain) Bligh was largely manufactured thru after the fact propoganda intended to smear Bligh and vindicate several high-born mutineers

of particular interest to me was the near impossible feat of navigation done by Bligh and his officers to reach Batavia in an open boat after the mutiny.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 6:09 pm to
Yeah, it seemed that the '35 film took the worst accounts of Bligh and the following films became a bit more sympathetic. I'd read that a relative or two of the actual mutineers had written books absolving their family members and making Bligh the true villain. Bligh's logs still exist, so we at least have his version.

And every film congratulates Bligh on his open boat navigation.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:57 pm to
Only version I saw was 35. Very good movie.

I can’t believe they went through at that trouble to get some bread fruit. They’re not even any good.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

of particular interest to me was the near impossible feat of navigation done by Bligh and his officers to reach Batavia in an open boat after the mutiny.
This.

The mutineers effectively condemned Bligh and the remaining crew loyal to him to a death sentence. Only through his brilliant seamanship and some exceptionally good fortune were they able to survive the journey.

I've seen the three Hollywood films as well (although decades apart) and I don't recall if any of them are close to historically accurate. But as far as entertainment goes, I'd put the '35 film clearly at the top, with '84 next. The Brando/Howard version was pretty boring as I recall.
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

I can’t believe they went through at that trouble to get some bread fruit. They’re not even any good

Eventually they did get bread fruit to the slaves (who refused to eat it).
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 10:41 pm to
I was so inspired by the story as a kid that that’s where I went on my honeymoon. Right by where they burned the Bounty.

The 1984 Mel Gibson version was notable for his over- acting - those bulging eyes, can’t unsee that. But I really liked that version of the story- it’s easy to see how they could be seduced by this other world . I liked the weird soundtrack too .
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

I liked the weird soundtrack too .


That Bladerunner soundtrack really dates it.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 10:48 pm to
I've always liked Brando's '62 version the best. Maybe because I saw it first and it always struck me as closer to the real story for some reason ... even though it probably wasn't.

I just liked the cast better.

Gable's version was good, not great imho.

I'd rank the Gibson/Hopkins version I'd rate 2nd.
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