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re: MTV's The Challenge 41

Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by ChefLSU
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:49 pm to
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Looks like good news coming to MTV and the challenge hopefully. They won't be getting rid of the them. The challenge is cheap to make and bring in a strong reliable demo numbers for the last 27 years.

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Jeff Shell, Paramount Skydance’s president, echoed Cheeks’ sentiments but framed the cable channels not as “declining linear assets” but as “brands we have to redefine.” This approach suggests a strategic pivot to reposition these networks for a streaming-dominated future, leveraging their established audiences and intellectual property to remain competitive. Shell’s comments reflect an optimistic vision for revitalizing these assets rather than divesting them.



If they were smart and want to grow the audience of the challenge they would either keep it on MTV and put it directly streaming to paramount + right after it airs like survivor and big brother does. Or just go straight to Paramount + so everyone can watch it. They would get millions of streams instead of the smaller audience they get from cable these days. The main complaint of this show is literally people struggling to be able to find a way to watch it. Put on every season of road rules and real world and the challenge on paramount +. That could bring in millions of more new viewers that never see them plus the already big fan base they have that no longer have cable.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 9:43 pm to
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The main complaint of this show is literally people struggling to be able to find a way to watch it.

This right here dammit. I’m stuck watching season 40 on paramount, can’t get 41. And can’t even decide if I want to follow this thread or not but kinda do.
This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:03 pm to
Are they still making Paramount+ only seasons of The Challenge? I didn't think anyone was watching those. They tried that Challenge USA show on CBS and that didn't work either. MTV Challenge is the only one people care about.
Posted by ChefLSU
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:07 pm to
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can get 41

You mean can't?
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:09 pm to
Yes, corrected.
Posted by ChefLSU
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:14 pm to
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Are they still making Paramount+ only seasons of The Challenge? I didn't think anyone was watching those. They tried that Challenge USA show on CBS and that didn't work either. MTV Challenge is the only one people care about.



I think Challenge USA was just during covid because the network needed something fast and quick and cheap. That was on CBS and straight to Paramount +

The flagship challenge has never gone directly to paramount + just MTV. Then months after it airs on MTV all the episodes drop of Paramount +. From what they have said the challenge still does great demo numbers (18-34) on MTV (cable) even though the number of overall viewers have gone down from the last 5 years. All stars have done well on paramount + streaming. Not sure about Challenge USA versions.

With that said they are losing millions of challenge viewers because cable drops each year drastically and no one wants to wait 6 months after it airs to watch it on paramount +

You can also buy it on Amazon Prime and Youtube Tv for $22 a season. 41 is $22 right now for the whole season.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:25 pm to
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they would either keep it on MTV and put it directly streaming to paramount + right after it airs like survivor and big brother does. Or just go straight to Paramount + so everyone can watch it.

Man, I hope they don’t ever do that. I love tha Challenge but P+ isn’t the best streaming service (or super user friendly at times). If I could only watch it there I assume I’d watch it a lot less than I do now (or even not at all). It’s easy for me with cable because my DVR just records it for me. But I do think they should make it more accessible. Airing it immediately after on P+ is a good idea. Not sure why they don’t do that.

shite, you can’t even watch episodes on mtv.com anymore. That used to be my go-to if I missed it on Wednesday nights, or if my DVR didn’t record it for whatever reason. I’d just go on their site and stream it there. I have absolutely no idea why they stopped doing that shite.

If you’re a network and this is one of your best or more bankable properties, it seems like common sense to make it as available as possible to the masses. But for some reason they don’t seem interested in that. It’s fricking stupid.
Posted by ChefLSU
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:33 pm to
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can’t get 41. And can’t even decide if I want to follow this thread or not but kinda do.


This is by far the best season in a decade so far. The only other option other than waiting till early next year on paramount + is to buy it on amazon prime or youtube tv for $19 like I said. Comes out to $1 an episode with the reunions. Pretty sure it gives it to you right after it airs on MTV on Wed nights.
This post was edited on 8/18/25 at 1:04 am
Posted by ChefLSU
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 10:42 pm to
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Man, I hope they don’t ever do that. I love tha Challenge but P+ isn’t the best streaming service (or super user friendly at times). If I could only watch it there I assume I’d watch it a lot less than I do now (or even not at all). It’s easy for me with cable because my DVR just records it for me. But I do think they should make it more accessible. Airing it immediately after on P+ is a good idea. Not sure why they don’t do that.



I'm on the same page as you. I DVR it and watch it after so we can skip the commercials or watch it the next few days when we have time. If It was my choice I would obviously keep it live on MTV since they have stated they are not getting ride of those channels since the merger went down. After it airs like BB and Survivor it automatically goes on P+ to stream for the millions of people who no longer have cable like Havok and struggle to find it. It's 2025 no one should have to ever struggle to figure out how to watch their favorite tv show. It makes no sense.

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shite, you can’t even watch episodes on mtv.com anymore. That used to be my go-to if I missed it on Wednesday nights, or if my DVR didn’t record it for whatever reason. I’d just go on their site and stream it there. I have absolutely no idea why they stopped doing that shite.

If you’re a network and this is one of your best or more bankable properties, it seems like common sense to make it as available as possible to the masses. But for some reason they don’t seem interested in that. It’s fricking stupid.


From what I gathered it had something to do in the contract that if it airs on mtv it can't go on paramount + till months later because if it would go automatically on + it would hurt MTV in some way. Now that they are merged there is no reason why this should happen anymore. You would just be fighting yourselves and customers.


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but P+ isn’t the best streaming service (or super user friendly at times)


I have an apple tv and use the paramount + app on that and I've never had problems but you're not the first person that brought this up. I'm sure they will be revamping the streaming service app soon with all this new money.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:46 am to
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From what I gathered it had something to do in the contract that if it airs on mtv it can't go on paramount + till months later because if it would go automatically on + it would hurt MTV in some way. Now that they are merged there is no reason why this should happen anymore. You would just be fighting yourselves and customers.

But MTV doesn't even replay the challenge episodes. There have been times here and there when my DVR would skip a new episode and not record it or something like that. And I've gone to my guide to try to find a replay to record that one but they don't re-air it. Or if they do it's like once, maybe.

So not really sure what that deal is that you're talking about unless it's an antiquated provision in their contract. I could almost understand it if they re-aired episodes a lot so putting it on P+ would hurt their TV viewer numbers. But since they don't replay them really, it doesn't make sense.
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I have an apple tv and use the paramount + app on that and I've never had problems but you're not the first person that brought this up. I'm sure they will be revamping the streaming service app soon with all this new money.

It has gotten better, but still isn't the best. It crashes a lot for me (on my cable box at home and also on my computer). I find I do have more success when using P+ from my Xbox, but the overall layout and UI aren't great either, and never have been IMO.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 12:20 pm to
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I have an apple tv and use the paramount + app on that and I've never had problems but you're not the first person that brought this up. I'm sure they will be revamping the streaming service app soon with all this new money.

I use Roku and have zero problems with P+.
Posted by ChefLSU
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 2:19 pm to
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But MTV doesn't even replay the challenge episodes. There have been times here and there when my DVR would skip a new episode and not record it or something like that. And I've gone to my guide to try to find a replay to record that one but they don't re-air it. Or if they do it's like once, maybe.

So not really sure what that deal is that you're talking about unless it's an antiquated provision in their contract. I could almost understand it if they re-aired episodes a lot so putting it on P+ would hurt their TV viewer numbers. But since they don't replay them really, it doesn't make sense.


I hear you. It makes zero sense. It's like MTV purposely tries to sabotage the challenge. It's the only show I like that I would have trouble finding if I didn't DVR it. I'm sure that is what will be brought up with the merger. They need a complete overhaul with the MTV division.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:36 pm to
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The challenge is cheap to make

Is it? Man those sets, obstacles and all seem like it wouldn’t exactly be cheap. Pretty damn well done.
Posted by ChefLSU
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 5:00 pm to
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Is it? Man those sets, obstacles and all seem like it wouldn’t exactly be cheap. Pretty damn well done.



Julie Pizzie, who oversees the challenge, was on a podcast one time and mentioned how it was cheap to make and made MTV a profit especially compared to scripted television. Unscripted television is made for cheap normally and gets great ROI.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 6:59 pm to
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Unscripted

Posted by ChefLSU
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:40 pm to
Teaser

Tonights new episode
Posted by King George
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Teaser
That was funny.
Posted by ChefLSU
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:51 pm to
T-minus 10 minutes
Posted by ColonelAngus
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:58 pm to
That was brutal. Not even close
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:50 pm to
Chill Turbo once again. Insane.

Justin is a well-rounded athlete, you guys. Stop being haters.

Tay thinks Leroy is “very underrated.”



Derek wants to keep the “vet alliance” as long as he can. But ten minutes later is talking about “our UK alliance.”

Izzy’s boobs with those tan lines. Jesus.

Leo finding out how insane Ashley is. Welcome to the challenge, rook.

Aneesa was gassed after running for 60 seconds in a maze? Quick, everyone tell me how much of a legend she is. Please.

This was a cool challenge, but boring as frick to watch.

Derrick lands on a hard sudoku. This should be awesome.

It seems like splitting up duties on the sudoku is a bad idea since one mistake could frick the whole puzzle up.

For an Olympic runner, Theo has awful endurance. And he sort of has since his second challenge or so.

Yea, Ben. You showed the “grittiness, the heart, and the determination to get the job done yourself.” By doing a sudoku puzzle. With a partner.

Cedric is half annoying, and half entertaining/hilarious. I like him as an addition.

Nany: “You would think that after all these years I’d know how to do a sudoku.”
No, Nany. We wouldn’t. Not at all. You are stupid. And you look like Skeletor.

John wiping the board clean around the 40 minute mark is an egregious mistake. He should know better than that and just hope you have SOME of them correct.

Ben with his second “grit and determination” reference.

Tay, that red dress. My goodness.

Michaela is talking about how people don’t know how to play the game. But then she wants to throw in a vet male. That’s dumb of her and she doesn’t seem to know how to play it either. As a vet she should be against the rookie and the UK alliances first and foremost.

Total waste of time nominating Derek and Izzy, even though I get the logic behind it.

This is the absolute best case for Olivia. But just because Gabe is big doesn’t necessarily mean shite. And John is one of the best to ever do it.

Gabe already crying. Yikes.

This is a cool elimination. I miss Jordan and wish he was on this season. This is the kind of elimination that he would excel at because strategy will play a big part in it. Not sure he’d have enough to beat someone as big as Gabe though.

Seems like your success in this elimination hinges on how quickly you can get your middle token scored.

Are they not allowed to talk during this elimination? Or is there just nobody wanting to say anything? Because knowing there’s only one left to score is such an advantage on defense.

2 minutes to 11 minutes. Not even close. Wow. Good for Gabe. Thar dude is enormous. It would be cool to see him and someone like CT do this elimination since they are similar weights.

Draft order:
Olivia
Jake
Sydney
Turbo
Ashley
America
Theo
Aviv
Cedric
See
Derrick
Cara
Nany

Yeremi choosing Ashley before Aviv or Cara is great. Hope she blows up on him.

Gabe and Leka paired as both being threats. Interesting.

Looks like a tie vote next week. Wish they wouldn’t have shown us that.
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