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Mr. Orange's "cops in the bathroom" story

Posted on 1/31/12 at 8:08 pm
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
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Posted on 1/31/12 at 8:08 pm
Shortened Youtube video

I have always loved the "bag full of pot in a room full of cops" story that Tarantino has Mr. Orange (Tim Roth) tell in Reservoir Dogs. From the set up of Roth being told by his handler to make it up and rehearse it, to him actually telling it in the club and the visuals of it, the sequence is captivating and very believable.

The whole concept of coming up with such a tale and practicing it until it becomes second nature could be used as a primer for becoming a good liar or something less exciting like preparation for an oral exam. Even though the whole sequence takes but a few minutes, the way QT shot it gives the idea of Mr. Orange spent many a free hour perfecting it. Roth also does a great job of showing the importance of the rest of the guys believing it.

One of the coolest aspects of the way QT shot it is going from Mr. Orange in the club telling it to his vision of it occurring to him telling it from his vantage point in the bathroom with the awesome 360 shot as he tells it.

Edited to add:

The point of this meandering post is to ask a burning question:

I am no film expert so I don't know but have always wondered if the way this all was done was an original idea QT had or if he copied it from another writer/director. Some of you guys who have studied movie making and writing must have an answer on this. Can anyone help me with this question? Are their other films with similar telling of tales within the movie?

On a side note:

I found this more complete version of the scene ( Youtube) where someone changed the "in the bathroom" portions to black-and-white (al la American History X).

Just wanted to get the board's opinion on the black-and-white idea.

This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/31/12 at 8:16 pm to
Agree with this. It's a great example of the costanza principle. It's not a lie if you believe it.

Roth is incredible in this one as is just about every actor not named tarantino
Posted by DanglingFury
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/31/12 at 8:29 pm to
Reservoir Dogs is an all time top five for me. Love that scene, it's the Inception of flashbacks.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33829 posts
Posted on 2/1/12 at 6:34 pm to
Shamelessly bumping my own thread looking for an answer.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/1/12 at 6:45 pm to
It's the best scene in the movie. It's not an analysis of lying, but of storytelling. Mr. Orange is briefly the director of the movie. It's just a great device.

Smoke has a similar moment, but it's not as good, though it does have Harvey Keitel as well.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 2/1/12 at 7:03 pm to
I've usually seen this type of scene done quite a bit when a guy is telling a B.S. story about sex to his friends.

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