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re: Mad Men 6-3 "Commissions and Fees"
Posted on 6/5/12 at 2:27 pm to Zamoro10
Posted on 6/5/12 at 2:27 pm to Zamoro10
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Rohan2Reed
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Zamoro10
You guys are both right and both wrong. The old Don was motivated by fear and the need to get as far ahead of his past as possible.
The new Don is somewhat comfortably and somewhat adapting to the 60's but is still hungry. Starting this week, he is motivated by the same thing that motivated Ghengis Kahn; to kill everything he sees.
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Posted on 6/5/12 at 2:37 pm to Cold Pizza
Yeah don't forget the comment at the beginning of the episode from the guy in the barber shop about it being a nice get for "such a little firm" or however he put it. To Don, that was his realization that even though they landed a nice account they were still relatively small time. He realizes that they have been that way for a while now and seems pretty pissed about it.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 3:13 pm to RonBurgundy
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I don't think a single element of this will happen.
Not sure if we are watching the same show . . . only the 7th and 9th items are really speculation. The rest have already happened.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 3:37 pm to Navytiger74
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but Jared Harris (Lane) is Richard Harris' son,
I wonder if Lane going out by hanging was some reference to Richard Harris hanging ( by his chest) in a Man Called Horse.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 3:42 pm to DivotBreath
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Meghan will lobby for Peggy to return to take some of work burden off of Don since she is not enjoying his current workload;
-- Peggy and Pete animosity;
-- Ken will seal the Dow deal for Don if Don brings back Peggy as partner to make Pete's life miserable since Peggy will work the biggest account and Pete cannot touch it.
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Not sure if we are watching the same show . . . only the 7th and 9th items are really speculation. The rest have already happened.
this is what I meant, there really is no animosity between Pete and Peggy anymore and all of your guesses seem way out of left field. You are selling Ken's motivations as a little too selfless/jealous, when Weiner has said this season is "everyman for himself".
Posted on 6/5/12 at 4:07 pm to RonBurgundy
We obviously took different things from that meeting that Ken had with Roger. Ken somewhat had them by the "short hairs" and all he wanted was to exclude Pete and to himself be forced to work on the account? I think that is pretty naive to think that is the only angle Ken is working.
Relying on Weiner's "everyman for himself" comment is your choice, but they have been known to throw a few curves from time to time . . . especially leading up to the season finale.
Relying on Weiner's "everyman for himself" comment is your choice, but they have been known to throw a few curves from time to time . . . especially leading up to the season finale.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 5:18 pm to DivotBreath
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I think that is pretty naive to think that is the only angle Ken is working.
I like Cosgrove, but what in the history of MM gives you the impression that he is capable of playing this game at the highest level? What's naive is to think that Ken is attached to "the pact" that Peggy would come back because Ken makes a power play.
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Relying on Weiner's "everyman for himself" comment is your choice, but they have been known to throw a few curves from time to time . . . especially leading up to the season finale.
Except that every character has been incredibly self-centered this season (excluding Don)
Pete,Peggy,Joan,Lane and Megan all looked out for number 1 this year, despite reasons to the contrary.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 9:28 am to Cold Pizza
I found a bit of a parallel between the scene where Don fired Lane, and the scene in Season 1, when Pete tried to out Cooper.
Given the chance to also respond with "who cares" or give Lane a chance to make it right, Don went the other way. "I can't trust you" would have been the most natural response for Cooper to give, when presented with Don's past, but he didn't. I think Lane's death is going to weigh on Don a lot more than some think. I don't know if the Dow pursuit is going to be long lived, Don could be absolutely crushed by what happened.
Given the chance to also respond with "who cares" or give Lane a chance to make it right, Don went the other way. "I can't trust you" would have been the most natural response for Cooper to give, when presented with Don's past, but he didn't. I think Lane's death is going to weigh on Don a lot more than some think. I don't know if the Dow pursuit is going to be long lived, Don could be absolutely crushed by what happened.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 12:54 pm to CrippleCreek
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I think Lane's death is going to weigh on Don a lot more than some think. I don't know if the Dow pursuit is going to be long lived, Don could be absolutely crushed by what happened.
There's another thing, Don asked Lane a couple of times was that the only check and Lane never answered him.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 3:06 pm to TigerGman
I think it will be interesting to see if Lane's family gets any kind of benefits and if Don has to reveal why Lane killed himself.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 8:39 pm to CrippleCreek
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"I can't trust you" would have been the most natural response for Cooper to give, when presented with Don's past, but he didn't.
Cooper knew Don was a proven commodity who made him a lot of money so he was willing to risk it.
Don giving Lane the chance to resign may get him in trouble, but it won't be a big plot line.
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