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Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:57 am to OldSulRoss
RIP Lane
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:05 am to OldSulRoss
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No way. They've referenced the Cosgrove/Peggy pact about leaving together too many times this season. Ken is going to get on the Dow account and then make his play.
Would be huge, but I'd think he's pissed at Peggy for leaving without him. If he still wants to leave, I'd think he would go somewhere else. But that absolutely would explain why he said no thanks on the partnership, he'd probably be breaking some contract if he leaves as a partner, so it would be worthless.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:16 am to THRILLHO
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But that absolutely would explain why he said no thanks on the partnership, he'd probably be breaking some contract if he leaves as a partner, so it would be worthless.
Would absolutely have a non-pirating clause - can't leave and take any business without paying for them...
Back then might even have a strict non-compete clause that he can't work in the ad business in the same city.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 2:28 am to eleventy
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I guess I figured she's in favor of anything that will piss Betty off or cause her trouble, plus she seems to like Megan pretty well.
Re-watched it, I was mistaken. Sally does want Henry to leave Betty. I hope he does too, so Betty goes on the prowl. Maybe Roger can finally tap that.
Secondly and I might re-post this, but is anyone else happily surprised about the re-emergence of Bert Cooper being the top dog around SDC(RI)P?(copyright RonBurgundy) from a guy who "quit" last yyear and doesn't have an office or do any business Cooper still calls the fricking shots.
. He is the only one Don really listens too.This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 2:29 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 6:15 am to RonBurgundy
Just did some IMDBing (probably already posted),
but Jared Harris (Lane) is Richard Harris' son, and Marten Weiner (Glen) is--you guessed it--Matt Weiner's son.
Kinda of interesting, I guess.
but Jared Harris (Lane) is Richard Harris' son, and Marten Weiner (Glen) is--you guessed it--Matt Weiner's son.
Kinda of interesting, I guess.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 7:57 am to RonBurgundy
Great great episode. Saw Lane's fall coming this season but they handled it very well.
I love Cooper. He plays the role of the goofy old man but when push comes to shove he knows business and knows how to handle shite.
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Secondly and I might re-post this, but is anyone else happily surprised about the re-emergence of Bert Cooper being the top dog around SDC(RI)P?(copyright RonBurgundy) from a guy who "quit" last yyear and doesn't have an office or do any business Cooper still calls the fricking shots. . He is the only one Don really listens too.
I love Cooper. He plays the role of the goofy old man but when push comes to shove he knows business and knows how to handle shite.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 9:50 am to JBeam
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I really have a hardtime believing that the whole Pete and Peggy situation is completely dead
Here is my take (or the way I want to see it) on the pieces of the puzzle that we have been given:
-- no mention of Peggy gone in this recent episode, only Joan saw her leave;
-- Lane (partner) gone and Don told him that he had to resign because he could not trust him;
-- push for huge account with Dow;
-- Ken stipulated that he did not want Pete working the account;
-- Ken and Peggy have their "agreement";
-- Don always trusted Peggy (to the point that he usually failed to acknowledge her work because he took it for granted);
-- Meghan will lobby for Peggy to return to take some of work burden off of Don since she is not enjoying his current workload;
-- Peggy and Pete animosity;
-- Ken will seal the Dow deal for Don if Don brings back Peggy as partner to make Pete's life miserable since Peggy will work the biggest account and Pete cannot touch it.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 9:55 am to DivotBreath
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Ken will seal the Dow deal for Don if Don brings back Peggy as partner to make Pete's life miserable since Peggy will work the biggest account and Pete cannot touch it.
Would love this but nothing in the show's history indicates that this will happen.
Of course, I've been wrong all season.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 10:40 am to Navytiger74
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Don is back.
God I get so tired of hearing this.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:27 am to DivotBreath
I think you're reading too much into this, dude.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:40 am to DivotBreath
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-- no mention of Peggy gone in this recent episode, only Joan saw her leave;
-- Lane (partner) gone and Don told him that he had to resign because he could not trust him;
-- push for huge account with Dow;
-- Ken stipulated that he did not want Pete working the account;
-- Ken and Peggy have their "agreement";
-- Don always trusted Peggy (to the point that he usually failed to acknowledge her work because he took it for granted);
-- Meghan will lobby for Peggy to return to take some of work burden off of Don since she is not enjoying his current workload;
-- Peggy and Pete animosity;
-- Ken will seal the Dow deal for Don if Don brings back Peggy as partner to make Pete's life miserable since Peggy will work the biggest account and Pete cannot touch it.
I don't think a single element of this will happen.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 11:55 am to RonBurgundy
What about Lane's wife? What night did he leave home? Was it Saturday or Sunday night? How come she didn't call work to find out where he is at?
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:20 pm to Rohan2Reed
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God I get so tired of hearing this.
Why? Don was very much not himself at the company most of this season. I know from your previous comments on the issue that you were annoyed by people that wanted womanizing Don back, but I'd think you'd be glad to see him with his A game at work without it.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 12:26 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Why? Don was very much not himself at the company most of this season. I know from your previous comments on the issue that you were annoyed by people that wanted womanizing Don back, but I'd think you'd be glad to see him with his A game at work without it.
To be fair I don't think Season 1-3 Don will ever be "back". Season 4 he was a mess and Season 5 for the most part is Don finding new drive at work, but not with the debauchery. I watched the episode again and I am actually happy that Betty (the bitch) had a good moment. Although the show has evolved and I love that it has, when Betty is shown on screen in a positive light I get a sense of nostalgia.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Why? Don was very much not himself at the company most of this season. I know from your previous comments on the issue that you were annoyed by people that wanted womanizing Don back, but I'd think you'd be glad to see him with his A game at work without it.
But what's his motivation now? It's clear to me that "old Don" had an actual fire in his belly and was naturally talented, although a lot of his success in advertising and coming up with ideas/landing clients was a product of the times he was living in. I feel now that he's grasping for something to have control over because Megan doesn't do what he says and isn't the perfect little housewife he imagined plus he's in over his head in the world of the 60's advertising atmosphere. You saw it in the meeting he had with Ed Baxter.. all he knows how to do is intimidate people and give them an ultimatum. It just comes off as false bravado now. You can see he lacks confidence in himself.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:16 pm to Rohan2Reed
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But what's his motivation now? It's clear to me that "old Don" had an actual fire in his belly and was naturally talented, although a lot of his success in advertising and coming up with ideas/landing clients was a product of the times he was living in.
Old Don was motivated by fear.
Fear of his past, fear of failure, fear of not being the man that he's expected to be...and often , running away from that fear.
Since he's settled and reconciled his secret past and is comfortable in his own skin now and sort of financially secure (no alimony) - he's been sort of lost.
What is his driving him? He walked into Roger's office after firing Lane and asked...what are we doing here? What's the point in all of this? Is not having the big fish client just a substitute temporary motivation?
Don mentioned he's started over many times before as we was forcing Lane to resign...I often wonder if the show could have Don leave the Ad game for something else/storyline before the series is over. A permanent California trip so to speak. Would Weiner do that?
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:28 pm to Zamoro10
I know it has been addressed in past seasons, but does Ken not want to do business with his father in law or is it the other way around?
and why not?
and why not?
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:36 pm to Joe Joe Joe
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but does Ken not want to do business with his father in law or is it the other way around?
and why not?
I think it's a mutual decision to separate family and business, but also to give both of them a superiority complex to their peers.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:37 pm to Zamoro10
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Don mentioned he's started over many times before as we was forcing Lane to resign...I often wonder if the show could have Don leave the Ad game for something else/storyline before the series is over. A permanent California trip so to speak. Would Weiner do that?
I see that as the end game personally.
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