re: LOST "What They Died For" S6.E16 (Multi-centric)

I think we should start a list of plotlines the show focused on during season 6 that ultimately were useless. For starters:

The Temple
Dogen/Lennon
Kidnapping Jin

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Glad to see you survived your LOST drinking game last night.


Why the past tense? He's still drinking.

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Might as well have still been, because I canned about 14 drinks that night (7 hours).

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this board's gonna implode sunday

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More likely to explode with a record number of posts related to the finale.

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I don't think many Lost fans feel this way. Somehow Lost fans got this rep based on a few idiots. I just enjoy the show. I am a little disappointed with the abundance of inconsistencies, but the show still entertains me, and that's more than I can say for most. It had the potential to be an all-time great, but they tried to do too much and couldn't tie it all together.


While I think it will go down as an all time great, I basically agree with this post. It will be remembered for some of its flaws, but people will look at the big picture more than the smaller flaws. However the small flaws in the finale will certainly be remembered more than any other episode.

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Agree. LOST will go down in TV history as unique ground-breaking series:

1. The series has basically been a combination of soap opera, sci-fi, mystery, drama, romance, comedy, history and fantasy. No series has ever combined so many elements the way LOST has.

2. The termination of well developed characters throughout the series was unique and will likely be repeated in other series as a popular convention.

3. Probably the greatest use of the internet to enhance fan interaction related to the series. This will also set an ongoing trend by networks to increase fan support.

4. The use of time travel, backward and forward and sideways with the parallel 2004 timeline was a significant innovation along with timely use of flashbacks and flashforwards.

5. The introduction of so many historic, mythic and scientific references and easter eggs was creative and added to the mystery and enjoyment for fans looking for answers.

6. The development of basic themes such as balance, light/dark, science/faith, choice/destiny, love/hate, etc. created a larger than life atmosphere in the world that is LOST.

7. A fine balance between super-human (Smokey) and unique abilities (talking with the dead) tempered by rules made for a unique plot.

8. The backgammon-like game aspect of the plot with rules that were only partially understood by the audience was very creative.

9. An announced deadline for the end of the series was unique and will probably be used in other future programming. This gives actors and everyone associated with the series more flexibility in planning.

10. Reintroducing apparently terminated actors (like Claire) was quite innovative and was enabled by other conventions in the series such as Anna Lucia's appearance in the flash sideways timeline.

All in all, I have to say that LOST has been uncommonly entertaining due to its unique plot/themes, innovations/conventions and overall fine acting, directing and writing supported by an enthusiastic and intelligent fan-base.

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Seriously? Is the post above real? Please, tell me this is sarcasm..

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Hahaa, Freauxzen, you have obviously been infected by the darkness and I'm just trying to bring you back to the light. I recommend 6 Hail Mary's and 10 Our Father's and rewatch every LOST episode from start to finish tied to a chair with your eyes taped open.

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MIB can't change his form now that Jacob is "dead" according to the story.

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He changed his form when appearing to Ben as Alex. Maybe other times too.

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davesdawgs

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Honestly, do you believe what you typed though?

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I don't see any way for it to end but for the darkness to still be trapped/contained on the island:

1. The Island is the source of the light of the world. Mother said something like if that light goes out and then it goes out in the rest of the world. The light must be protected for the world to survive as we/they know it.

2. If MIB escapes from the island then the world will be infected by his darkness even if the island/light remains in tact. There can't be a happy ending if MIB escapes and I am sure there will be at least some measure of a happy ending.

3. Balance is an overriding theme in LOST. There can me no understanding of light without darkness. Choices determine our fate/destiny. Love and hate or opposite concepts; one cannot exist without the other. Scientific investigation requires faith that answers can be found, etc. Neither the light or the darkness will be destroyed; one cannot exist without the other.

4. There are obviously many ways the writers could end it but if the flash sideways timeline is relevant (and the writers have said it is) then one way would be that the destruction of the island in the original 2007 timeline restores/lifts up the sunken island in 2004 timeline enabled by Desmond's unique ability to withstand EM radiation in the light along with a coordinated team effort in the 2004 timeline. The original 2007 timeline disappears and the flash sideways 2004 timeline becomes the new reality. This in effect becomes a reset back to before Jacob was killed. The Losties have been redeemed. Jacob wins the game proving that humankind is worth saving. MIB remains contained on the island.

5. Another possibility is something our heroes do together as a team with Desmond's coordination in the flash sideways 2004 timeline directly influences Desmond's effort to destroy or contain MIB in the 2007 timeline. My guess is MIB will be lured into the light perhaps down at the donkey wheel at the bottom of the Orchid thinking that this will be his means of escape but which will actually cause the darkness to be once again merged with/contained by the light by some means related to Desmond's unique ability associated with electromagnetism.

Per Faraday's comment about the flash sideways 2004 timeline NOT being what was supposed to happen, that timeline disappears, the Losties understand that they have sacrificed happier destinies to save the world and the 2007 timeline is maintained but of course with most of the cast dead. Sawyer might take a bullet from Claire to save Kate. Ben might shoot Claire in the process but refuses to kill Jack, Kate and Hurley and kills himself rather than let the darkness consume him; MIB will not kill the last person whom he could coerce into killing the new protector, Jack. My preference would be for Jack and Kate to remain and raise Aaron together on the island or Desmond and Penny remain to raise Charlie on the island but I can't see it being that mushy of an ending. I think it will likely be more obscure leaving the audience to wonder if the game continues with new pieces.

6. Or Ben becomes the worst antagonist in the history of a TV series, kills everyone including Jack. MIB tries to destroy the island in a final bid to be free of the light but Desmond "Fail-safe" Hume prevents the destruction which causes the darkness within MIB to be once again contained by the light. Desmond becomes the new protector.

7. Or Ben kills everyone but Desmond and then kills himself realizing the implications of his darkness. MIB is about to destroy or leave the island but John Locke's soul reinforced by influence from the flash sideways timeline shines through in MIB, MIB/Locke goes back into the light and the darkness is once again contained due to Desmond's influence on the EM associated with the light.

We are left to wonder what happens with the timelines or the island is destroyed in the '07 timeline but restored in '04 timeline, the '04 timeline becomes the new reality and everyone lives happily ever after, or the island is saved in the '07 timeline, the '04 timeline disappears when it reaches '07 and Desmond becomes the new protector. Desmond and Penny raise Charlie on the island.

8. Or....

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I think you have your dates mixed up. 2004 is the island timeline, and 2007 is the alternate timeline.

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If that happened, why not just go ahead and throw everyone down into the light so the island is all smoke monsters and no humans. easy enough.

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Actually no, this one was worse. Because nothing ever matters in the show.

Hey, Flocke doesn't need Desmond. Oh wait yes he does. Only Hurley can see Jacob, oh wait no other people can. Widmore is a big powerful character, who knows about...oh wait no he doesn't matter. Hey Ben's this awesome character going through a...oh wait no he's exactly the same. Hey Kate, we need you...oh wait no we don't. Hey Sun and Jin, you died for...well, nothing. Sawyer you can't leave the island...oh wait you don't matter either. Hey Richard is important and immorta...oh wait no he's not.

Did I cover everything?

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I don't care who you are, that is really funny!