re: LOST trivia (probably spoilers)

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why would Ben think it was Jacob?

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Wasn't it pretty much revealed in the following episode that Ben had never really spoken to Jacob?

Isn't that the entire reason Ben tried to kill Locke in body pit?

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Wasn't it pretty much revealed in the following episode that Ben had never really spoken to Jacob?

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yes, Ben never spoke directly to Jacob. And we've never seen Richard with him either. Did Ben pick the cabin as a random place to pretend that is where he "spoke" to Jacob? Or did Richard tell him that is where he lived, even he couldn't see him? But we know Richard knows Jacob is in the statue. Why does Richard think that Locke is going to be "trouble" when he asks to be taken to Jacob?

Ben hasn't seen Jacob because Richard has never taken him to the right place... obviously not because its against the rules, because he does it for Locke, but for some other reason?

I think that Richard and Ben used the idea of Jacob together to control the population of the Others.

My theory is that Jacob does not interfere. He is like a kid putting two fish together in a fish tank and watching which one eats the other.

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Been admitting in "The incident" that he had never seen or talked to Jacob....

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Yes. But I thought he was still under the impression that that was Jacob's residence, and that Jacob just wouldn't reveal himself to him. This is what infuriates him to action later, no?

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If this map is accurate, then the French group landed on a very isolated pennisula of the island and the Dharma barracks were separated by the West Mountain Range. Also, only about a month separates Rousseau's crash and Alex's kidnapping, so it isn't inconceviable that she didn't wander far from the crash site in that month.

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First of all the map isn't accurate since the Flame is much closer to the Barracks than that and it is said to be a 2 day walk from the beach camp. Also Rousseau has gone around the Island at least once in order to map it, which means she's at least discovered Pala Ferry. If there is a dock and a radio tower, then why not look all over the Island for signs of people living there? Chances are good that there are people there.

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This one is easy. The gassed portion was only the barracks. It's a pretty limited area. According to the map, Rousseau's camp was a good distance from there.

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The Tempest was designed in the later days of DHARMA in order to kill the Hostiles. It is supposed to gas every single portion of the Island. In the very least, it has allowed us to conclude that the Tempest can reach as far from the Barracks to the Survivors Beach Camp. The Hostiles captured the Tempest and used it to kill the DHARMA Initiative.

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Also Rousseau has gone around the Island at least once in order to map it, which means she's at least discovered Pala Ferry. If there is a dock and a radio tower, then why not look all over the Island for signs of people living there? Chances are good that there are people there.

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I don't understand how any of this affects the timeline of Alex being born before the purge. We know that Rousseau eventually maps the island, but not necessarily in the first month, especially after jus having a child.

Also, she is terrified of the "sickness," as seen with her interactions with her crew, Sayid, and Aaron. So even if she did run across Dharma or Others, it is unlikely that she would steer clear of them.

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The Tempest was designed in the later days of DHARMA in order to kill the Hostiles. It is supposed to gas every single portion of the Island. In the very least, it has allowed us to conclude that the Tempest can reach as far from the Barracks to the Survivors Beach Camp. The Hostiles captured the Tempest and used it to kill the DHARMA Initiative.

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But was the Tempest used to gas Dharma?

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I don't understand how any of this affects the timeline of Alex being born before the purge. We know that Rousseau eventually maps the island, but not necessarily in the first month, especially after jus having a child.

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It is confirmed though that she found the radio tower before Alex was born. Rouseau should have found the DHARMA Initiative. Its not like they were hard to find with cars running all over the Island. But you do have a point that she may not have mapped out the Island until DHARMA was destroyed.

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Also, she is terrified of the "sickness," as seen with her interactions with her crew, Sayid, and Aaron. So even if she did run across Dharma or Others, it is unlikely that she would steer clear of them.

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I think that Rousseau was alittle shaken up after all that happened to her in the first year, but I don't think she was nearly as crazy then as she is now. If she saw someone in a car, I think she would be a tad bit more trusting.

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But was the Tempest used to gas Dharma?

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Its been confirmed

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The Tower is in the Western Mountains, which separates her crash site from the Dharma Barracks and all of the stations. It's easily plausible that she got to the tower, recorded the message, and went back to the crash site without ever seeing any Dharma constructs.

Also, her entire crew were immediately attacked by Smokie when they got to the island. I doubt she would simply go wandering around in the woods with a baby.

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I can buy this, but the fact of the matter remains that Alex was abducted 3 years before the Purge. Thats 3 years to find DHARMA. The survivors found multiple stations in less than 3 months, and almost all of them were overgrown and inactive.

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I don't doubt that Rousseau knew about the DHARMA initive and probably had stumbled upon them at some point in those three years. I just don't think its a stretch that she didn't ask for help given her past on the island.

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Rousseau has claimed that she had never heard of DHARMA until the survivors came though.

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1. Kate's dad, Sam Austen, is the commander of the U.S. Military unit who captured Sayid's Republican Guard Unit in Desert Strom.

2. Nadia, Sayid's wife who he helped escape interrogation in 1995, was the woman who Charlie saved from the mugger in England (Season Three Finale when Charlie lists the top ten moments in his life)

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I knew 2, but not 1.

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This is why I think Richard might be on Essau's side. Everyone thinks that Ben is manipulative bastard, but what if Richard is really the one manipulating Ben?

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This would fit with what they did with John, getting conned into thinking he was special/their chosen leader. If that's the case, however, then why did Esau need to manipulate Richard? Richard didn't know Locke was Esau, so if Richard was serving him, why did he have to con him into thinking it was Locke? I understand it was needed to fool everyone else, but if Richard and Esau are in cahoots wouldn't Esau have just tipped him off as to his plans?