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Kingkiller Chronicle question

Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:00 am
Posted by horsesandbulls
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:00 am
How does the second book compare to the first?

I just finished the first and am gonna start the second, but I just wanted some reviews
Posted by MasCervezas
Ocean Springs
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:05 am to
If I like GOT, do you think I would like this?
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:07 am to
Its very good. The structure of the book with the story within the story keeps the plot from moving as quickly as I'd like and the clues about the Chandrian and the Amyr are few and vague but I'm hooked even deeper.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:07 am to
While I personally do not think 2 is as strong as 1, it is still excellent.

I love the series, but honestly, I have no idea how he can wrap it up in any significant way in one book, but he says that's it.

A lot happens, but not a lot happens...if that makes any sense.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:09 am to
quote:

I love the series, but honestly, I have no idea how he can wrap it up in any significant way in one book, but he says that's it.




I thought he was doing three separate trilogies, with each one wrapping up their individual story. I can't remember where I read that though.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:09 am to
quote:

If I like GOT, do you think I would like this?


They aren't all that similar. But it is much more in the adult vein. Its not as dark and dreary as GOT.

Personally, I find it to be a much more enjoyable read these days than GOT.

I would also give Scott Lynch's Gentleman Bastards sequence a try.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:10 am to
quote:

I thought he was doing three separate trilogies, with each one wrapping up their individual story. I can't remember where I read that though.




He has another trilogy planned, and while speculation has run rampant that it will be "the next stage for Kvothe", the very, very, very few hints he has dropped seem to suggest that this is completely it for that universe and the next series will be completely unrelated. I could be wrong.

I just can't see how he can wrap it up, but I hope he does.
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 11:41 am to
i loved GOT but this is really different. Same kind of time period and stuff but the underlying theme is the truth behind legends. I would say this is a little more complex of a story.
Posted by Bear-O-Dactyl
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:04 pm to
Does anyone know anything about the release date for Book 3?
Posted by TigerTalker142
Lafayette
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

He has another trilogy planned, and while speculation has run rampant that it will be "the next stage for Kvothe", the very, very, very few hints he has dropped seem to suggest that this is completely it for that universe and the next series will be completely unrelated. I could be wrong.


I've read that he has explicitly said this his last book with Kvothe, but has never stated that this is the last book in that universe.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:59 pm to
The Wise Man's Fear suffers from the same problem that the Name of the Wind suffer from: pacing. You'll see what I'm talking about, but both books have tangents that just flat last too long. They are in no way instrumental to the books (unless they become so later) and take up entirely too many pages.

Otherwise, both books are excellent and well worth the read.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Scott Lynch's Gentleman Bastards


is absolutely fantastic.

Also try Brent Weeks' Night Angel Trilogy and Lightbringer series.

But if you want what is, in my opinion, one of the best fast-paced low fantasy novels out there today, you have to read Blood Song by Anthony Ryan. It is truly great


ETA:

quote:

i loved GOT but this is really different. Same kind of time period and stuff but the underlying theme is the truth behind legends. I would say this is a little more complex of a story.


Uh... no. It is a frame tale, but that hardly makes it more complex. ASoIaF is one of the most richly developed and complex worlds in fiction history. As good as the Kingkiller Chronicles is, frankly, it doesn't hold a candle to ASoIaF. And Rothfuss will admit that.
As a side note, Rothfuss' review of Neil Gaiman's new book, The Ocean at the End of the Lane, is a joy to read in an of itself.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115736 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Does anyone know anything about the release date for Book 3?



No. And he's not even mentioning a peep about it on his blogs.

I think a lot of these guys are sensitive about that with the problems that GRRM had and Scott Lynch has had. They are going radio silence.

He's basically said, I wrote slow. It'll be done when it is.
Posted by MediTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:18 pm to
On first read I thought it was excellent but not quite as good as Name of the Wind. I need to reread it though as I was so excited for it's release that I read it in 3 days and likely missed a good bit.

I will also second all those Gentleman Bastards recommendations. I'm currently reading Red Seas Under Red Skies and am enjoying it at least as much as the first read through.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115736 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I will also second all those Gentleman Bastards recommendations. I'm currently reading Red Seas Under Red Skies and am enjoying it at least as much as the first read through.



After all of his battles with Divorce, H1N1, and most of all massive chronic Depression, Lynch's 3rd Book in the GB sequence, The Republic of Thieves comes out in October.
Posted by MediTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

After all of his battles with Divorce, H1N1, and most of all massive chronic Depression, Lynch's 3rd Book in the GB sequence, The Republic of Thieves comes out in October.


I did not realize there was a release date set. That is exciting news. Is there any info out about the story arc/content?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115736 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 1:37 pm to
Mild Spoilers for The Republic of Theives:

quote:

With what should have been the greatest heist of their career gone spectacularly sour, Locke and his trusted partner, Jean, have barely escaped with their lives. Or at least Jean has. But Locke is slowly succumbing to a deadly poison that no alchemist or physiker can cure. Yet just as the end is near, a mysterious Bondsmage offers Locke an opportunity that will either save him or finish him off once and for all.

Magi political elections are imminent, and the factions are in need of a pawn. If Locke agrees to play the role, sorcery will be used to purge the venom from his body—though the process will be so excruciating he may well wish for death. Locke is opposed, but two factors cause his will to crumble: Jean’s imploring—and the Bondsmage’s mention of a woman from Locke’s past: Sabetha. She is the love of his life, his equal in skill and wit, and now, his greatest rival.

Locke was smitten with Sabetha from his first glimpse of her as a young fellow orphan and thief-in-training. But after a tumultuous courtship, Sabetha broke away. Now they will reunite in yet another clash of wills. For faced with his one and only match in both love and trickery, Locke must choose whether to fight Sabetha—or to woo her. It is a decision on which both their lives may depend.


Comes out October 8, 2013
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

After all of his battles with Divorce, H1N1, and most of all massive chronic Depression, Lynch's 3rd Book in the GB sequence, The Republic of Thieves comes out in October.


Yeah, man. I'm excited. I root for that guy like crazy. Why? First, because he could write a book as amazing as the Lies of Locke Lamora. Second, because his sophomore slump was still better than 95% of anything out there. Third, because he wrote his second book while going through his divorce and beginning to spiral down into a deep, dark hole. And Fourth, because he came out on the other side to finish his third book in just over six years, which is really not any worse than GRRM who didn't go through any of the mess Lynch went through (that we know of, anyway).

Plus, Lynch is apparently a really good dude. Very genuine and connected to his fans. Which is also why I like Brent Weeks. And Anthony Ryan. And Neil Gaiman.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 3:39 pm to
I was entertained throughout but it was disappointing in the fact I didn't feel it addressed any of the mysteries of the first or moved the plot that much.
Posted by Charleaux
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
729 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 3:40 pm to
Funny this thread should pop up today as I myself have just started the second book today. While I will admit the first one dragged a bit in places, I really enjoyed it. Gave me a more adult Harry Potter kind of vibe (perhaps of the whole orphan going to school while having adventure story). Anyway, hoping the second one will be good too.

Thank you to those who also suggested other works. I had planned on checking out Lynch's novels next but it's always good to add more authors to the list. I'd also mention Joe Abercrombie as one to check out. I read his First Law trilogy before starting the name of the wind and it was pretty entertaining.
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