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re: Just saw Lincoln

Posted on 12/19/12 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 6:50 pm to
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(Gangs of New York does NOT count
Why wouldn't it?
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 12/19/12 at 10:42 pm to
The few scenes I liked was when the wife flipped out and Abe put her in her place. Also liked when JGL told off his dad about being afraid of his mom and he slapped him.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63534 posts
Posted on 12/19/12 at 10:52 pm to
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said it was very left winged political


Huh?

Only in the redneck south (of which I am a native son) would that be a criticism.
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 10:59 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 6:46 pm
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2345 posts
Posted on 12/19/12 at 11:09 pm to
I thought the actual politicking and maneuvering to get the votes were the best part of the movie, as well as all the scenes on the floor of the Senate.

I thought all of the Lincoln family stuff was wasted crap, and the ending was weak. The movie is about the 13th Amendment and its passage, going through the assassination off screen was silly. The movie shouldn't have even touched on it. End it at passage, or Appomattox or something The last 25-30 minutes were superfluous.
Posted by The Future
Smallville, KS
Member since Oct 2009
22661 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 7:34 am to
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I thought the actual politicking and maneuvering to get the votes were the best part of the movie, as well as all the scenes on the floor of the Senate.


I thought it was interesting in some parts, but for a movie about Lincoln, to not even show the assassination was BS

The movie literally should have been called the 13th amendment, then another movie actually about lincolns life made
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4751 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 9:07 am to
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Lincoln has such a badass story i hope someday someone does a movie about his last few years of his life and his death and even the hunt for Booth


its called Conspirator. Awesome movie about the Booth hunt after the assassination
This post was edited on 12/20/12 at 9:09 am
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 6:50 pm to
I can't believe they actually showed that many people casting their votes. They could have edited that scene better.
Posted by TiGeRTeRRoR
Member since Nov 2003
19883 posts
Posted on 12/21/12 at 8:50 pm to
So I thought the movie should've been called "Abolition" rather than "Lincoln" as Lincoln implies it's a biography. But a friend made a good point after the movie: Lincoln's whole life was building up to that moment, from the time he saw the slaves in New Orleans until the ratification of the bill. I think that's a valid point. Obviously, Lincoln even believed abolition was bigger than the Civil War. So I'm ok with that.


***SPOILERS BELOW***

My big issue was the ending. Did anyone else feel like the scene with his servant watching him walk down the hall would've been the perfect ending and Spielberg ignored it to get artsy at the end? He was on his way to Ford's Theater which everyone watching the movie was aware of without it being stated. I think stopping the movie there would've shown that Lincoln's everlasting legacy was abolition and it was much larger than the beginning and end of one man's life.

But instead we see Tad's reaction to the assassination, rather than the actual assassination, then Lincoln's proclaimed dead, then a flashback in a movie heavily structured on chronology.

The entire movie pretty much avoids Lincoln's life, and is entirely focused on the thirteenth amendment, then at the end, why is it so important to show his death?

Other than the ending, I loved the movie. Fantastic acting, story, and setting throughout. And as someone said earlier, the politicking in the movie to get the votes necessary to pass the amendment was very entertaining, as well as all of the humor from Lincoln and Stevens.
Posted by kjntgr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8488 posts
Posted on 12/23/12 at 12:57 am to
John Wilkes booth isn't credited on IMDB bc they only "announced " Lincoln's death, didn't show it
Posted by TiGeRTeRRoR
Member since Nov 2003
19883 posts
Posted on 12/23/12 at 1:34 am to
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I caught the same flub in it twice. The first one was when Abe told anothe guy to "call" somebody. It happened a second time but no sure when cause I forgot. Checked it out and the telephone wasn't invented until 1870 so how are they making these "calls"?
They were sending messages though. I don't really see how it's a flub. It'd be a flub if they said "call" someone and no form of communication was invented yet and they had to carry a message on horseback.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 12/23/12 at 2:25 am to
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I shoulda turned on history channel and saved 18 bucks


Yeah, you would have got the same half truth from both.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 12/23/12 at 9:34 am to
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I caught the same flub in it twice. The first one was when Abe told anothe guy to "call" somebody. It happened a second time but no sure when cause I forgot. Checked it out and the telephone wasn't invented until 1870 so how are they making these "calls"?


lol. The definition of "call" isn't limited to using a phone to speak to someone. It just means "go get them" or "go speak with." For example phrases like "gentleman caller" or "he called for a meeting."


On topic, I thought the movie was very good, but I knew it was a movie about the 13th amendment passage. And considering it was a movie about the passing of legislation it was fantastic!
Posted by HerbEaverstinks
Member since Jan 2011
4484 posts
Posted on 12/23/12 at 11:59 am to
I just saw my Lincoln log

and I give it a higher rating.

Very moving, threw tissue on it.

Kind of didn't want to flush it,

sort of like an old friend.
Posted by Tubedog13
Member since May 2009
3505 posts
Posted on 12/25/12 at 1:13 am to
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my dad hated it. said it should have been called "a movie about the 13th ammendment" said it was very left winged political


Left Wing = Democrat

Pro 13th Amendmant = Republican

Tell your daddy to read up on a little history (or just pay attention during the movie) before he passes on his ignorance to his son.
Posted by nuggetsmagicrule
Baton Rouge Louisiana
Member since Dec 2012
37 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 12:53 pm to
I saw Lincoln with my parents on a Monday night in December. My parents and I enjoyed the movie. I burned the movie to a dvd and gave it to my grandfather for Christmas. I have the movie downloaded on my computer.
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
8290 posts
Posted on 12/27/12 at 1:00 pm to
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Did anyone else feel like the scene with his servant watching him walk down the hall would've been the perfect ending and Spielberg ignored it to get artsy at the end?

Said that to my wife as we were leaving the theater. It was the absolute perfect ending...I don't know how Spielberg fricked that up.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:20 am to
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Yes it is a snooze fest and I like historical movies.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:48 pm to
I guess I travel in different circles than many posters. I really liked the movie and have yet to talk with anyone who didn't think it was a fine film. Not on my top 10 list, but no question DDL's performance was Oscar-caliber...probably his best performance IMO.
Posted by TiGeRTeRRoR
Member since Nov 2003
19883 posts
Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:53 pm to
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Said that to my wife as we were leaving the theater. It was the absolute perfect ending...I don't know how Spielberg fricked that up.
Glad it wasn't just me.

I'm really not one to criticize a movie after I see it for the first time or notice things I really didn't like. If it entertains me, it was good. If it doesn't entertain me, it wasn't.

But as soon as Lincoln ended and the credits came up, I leaned over to my friends and said, "I absolutely hated that ending."
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