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Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:54 am to JDPndahizzy
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Not sure if I've ever seen such a difference in opinion on this board over a movie
I liked it a lot and I find it interesting that the one criticism I do have (the ending) isn't mentioned at all by those who hated it. Solid story, great writing, even better acting. I wouldn't call it an all-time great but I certainly thought it was better than The Shape of Water
Posted on 7/22/25 at 11:57 am to migui8618
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This movie is so out there it's insane
It's a movie... I mean, what do you like if this one was 'too much'?
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:00 pm to Bama Bird
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It's a movie... I mean, what do you like if this one was 'too much'?
A movie set in a realistic setting with realistic humanoid creatures...I want it to make fricking sense. Sorry, but A24 isn't the pinnacle of movie making you dweebs make it out to be.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:07 pm to migui8618
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A movie set in a realistic setting with realistic humanoid creatures
So Jane Austen adaptations are the pinnacle of cinema, then?
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Sorry, but A24 isn't the pinnacle of movie making you dweebs make it out to be.
This isn't even A24
I'm completely willing to shite all over Everything, Everywhere All at Once if we must, but 3BOEM is absolutely well-made
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:08 pm to Corinthians420
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Still incredible acting.
I like Rockwell. He does good work. Without context, I can see where you can make that connection. But this scene doesn't exist in a vacuum. He's playing a poorly written trope by a European trying to score points with his echo chamber. Sure, he's making shite from shinola, but that doesn't make the movie great or even the scene great. That's where my main gripe comes from with this movie. The acting can be amazing, and the movie still be fricking stupid. Which this movie is. Hell, that's why I went watch this movie in the theaters. I like all these actors, and I even liked a few of this directors movies. But this was bad. Not even funny bad. No redeeming qualities at all.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:14 pm to Bama Bird
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This isn't even A24
I'm completely willing to shite all over Everything, Everywhere All at Once if we must, but 3BOEM is absolutely well-made
It's not. It's a complete tonal mess that has no clue what it wants to be and where it wants to go, over-relying on tropes and echo chambers to drag it's carcass to awards it most certainly doesn't deserve.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that you want humans in a movie...to act like humans. Say what you want about Jane Austen, but I bet if someone fire bombed an old English manor they'd get arrested at least.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:18 pm to Gifman
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Maybe Marvel movies are more your speed?
It actually feels like if you trained an AI to make Marvel movies, then gave it a one sentence prompt to now make an A24 movie
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:24 pm to Gifman
Thought it was a very good movie about dealing with loss and pain and trying to find forgiveness/closure. The leads don't do a good job dealing with letting go but that doesn't make it a bad movie. Characters don't always have to redeem themselves.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:31 pm to Obtuse1
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At first, I thought is was a perfect explanation to Ace Midnight's query of why we don't get more of these movies. Then I decided to take a deeper look, it is 90% of RT with an 87% Popcornmeter, and on IMDB, it is at 8.1 with the votes at or lower than 5, at only 3.9%. It turns out the people who don't like it are outliers and overrepresented in this thread.
Lets actually examine this a bit further.
It doesn't rank in the top 50 in gross for the year 2017 when it came out.
It played in less than 2k theaters.
Ladybird by comparison almost made as much money, played in fewer theaters, and had a bigger opening.
So maybe the issue isn't that most people like the movie and those here who don't are huge outliers, and in reality most people just didn't see it.
Then we get to the people who did see it... people who are really into movies. Most of them skew to the left. Most of them skew urban. So they wouldn't have the issues with getting the setting completely wrong (one of my bigger gripes with it) because most of the people watching wouldn't know any better.
I also think those types are more prone to hive mind about certain films than general audiences are. I consider myself "into" movies and even I can do a bit of that sometimes.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:38 pm to Gifman
Second and third replies
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this is the one of the only movies I've ever walked out of
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One of my all time fav movies.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:02 pm to VolSquatch
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So maybe the issue isn't that most people like the movie and those here who don't are huge outliers, and in reality most people just didn't see it.
Then we get to the people who did see it
People who saw it are the only people that matter.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:14 pm to ATrillionaire
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People who saw it are the only people that matter.
What would the user scores be if the number of people who saw something like Get Out that same year saw this movie?
Its definitively lower, and I'd argue much lower. If you're using those scores to back up your like of the movie, you can't also ignore this fact.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:17 pm to VolSquatch
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What would the user scores be if the number of people who saw something like Get Out that same year saw this movie?
Its definitively lower, and I'd argue much lower. If you're using those scores to back up your like of the movie, you can't also ignore this fact.
No idea. I'm only dealing in facts.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:18 pm to ATrillionaire
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I'm only dealing in facts.
Ok, not very many people saw this movie so the scores are skewed. That is a fact.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:24 pm to VolSquatch
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Ok, not very many people saw this movie so the scores are skewed. That is a fact.
With that line of thinking, all scores are skewed (for better or worse). The amount of people who watch a particular movie will never be a significant percentage of the amount of people who generally watch movies.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:27 pm to ATrillionaire
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With that line of thinking, all scores are skewed (for better or worse).
This is obviously true. Scores are an awful way to argue "this movie is bad/good"
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:37 am to VolSquatch
quote:Yes, I agree. The popcorn bucket user reviews are much more important to me than the tomato meter as far as if I feel like I will enjoy the movie. And I can’t think of too many times that I’ve seen a movie below 50% on the user reviews that I enjoyed.
Scores are an awful way to argue "this movie is bad/good"
I think you are correct about the actors driving this movie much more than the movie itself. Although I don’t share Hollywood’s love for Frances McDormand (I think she’s a fine actress, but what do I know), she drives this movie and Sam Rockwell is a good counter to her and clearly had his own personal experience.
I’ve only seen it once in theaters. I’m good. It didn’t amaze me. I’ve watched Coco, Darkest Hour, and Dunkirk several times.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:51 am to alajones
I remember hating it because.....
*spoiler*
they didn't solve the murder. I may need to re-watch it. It's been awhile
*spoiler*
they didn't solve the murder. I may need to re-watch it. It's been awhile
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