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re: Is Stanley Kubrick The Greatest Director of All Time?

Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:10 am to
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Is Stanley Kubrick The Greatest Director of All Time?


He's in the top tier with Hitchcock, Huston.
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:08 am to
i'd say yes ... many of his films are screenplays he wrote ... that's a separate skill from directing, but i think it speaks to his overall ability as a director ...
Posted by LSUDAN1
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:34 am to
Ed Wood and it ain't even close.
Posted by LSU6262
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:51 am to
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Huston received 15 Oscar nominations as a director, and won twice.


Meh. Billy Wilder has 21 noms and 6 Oscars.

Can't go by awards though
Posted by LSU6262
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:55 am to
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If you could only watch one director's filmography for the rest of your life, who would you pick?


Spielberg


After looking at their work, can I change to Clint Eastwood
Posted by Vood
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:03 pm to
John Hughes
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:19 pm to
How do you define greatness?

John Ford is probably the most accomplished and probably the greatest based on body of work.

The Grapes of Wrath
How Green Was my Valley
My Darling Clementine
Fort Apache
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Rio Grande
The Quiet Man
The Searchers
Mogambo
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence

Ingmar Bergman called him the greatest movie director of all time and Orson Welles regarded him highly. With four Academy Awards, he is the most honored director in film history.

And his film The Searchers is consistently in the Top 10 for the greatest film of all-time voted on by Directors in Sight and Sound.

Martin Scorcese called it the perfect film.

But I think there are three geniuses of the last century in film:

Orson Welles
Stanley Kubrick
Akira Kurosawa

Welles got screwed and blackballed as a genius and doesn't have the resume but he was a genius to the medium and so was Kubrick...Dr. Strangelove and Barry Lyndon and Paths of Glory and 2001 are sublime film-making.
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Posted by Froman
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:35 pm to
I think Kubrick is overrated, personally, but you can’t fault anyone for saying he is. I agree with someone earlier that Hitchcock is better, and I believe Akira Kurosawa is the greatest of all time.
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Billy Wilder has 21 noms and 6 Oscars.


Here's another stat - William Wyler directed 36 best acting nominations and those actors won 14 awards.

Kubrick and Hitchcock - for all their accolades as technical directors each scored a single directed Oscar-winning performance.

ETA: Wyler is also #1 in Directing noms with 12, winning 3 (Miss Miniver, Best Years of Our Lives and Ben Hur). 3 wins as director is tied for second with Capra and both are behind John MF Ford's 4 wins. Amazingly, Ford is 4 for 5 in directing statues, with exactly 0 wins and 1 nomination for any Western film (Stagecoach, 1939). Won for The Informer, Grapes of Wrath, How Green was my Valley? and The Quiet Man.

For comparison, Wilder is 2 for 8 (8 ties for second with Marty) in Best Director.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:53 pm to
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If you could only watch one director's filmography for the rest of your life, who would you pick?


For me the answer to that question is Quentin Tarantino. Haven’t seen him mentioned yet but he deserves mention.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Here's a question to ask yourself if you want to pick the greatest director of all-time. If you could only watch one director's filmography for the rest of your life, who would you pick?



Yeah this came up the other day, and this is the reason I have to pick Spielberg.


Jaws
Saving Private Ryan
Indiana Jones
Schindler’s List
Jurassic Park
Empire of the Sun
Munich
Close Encounters
E.T.
Catch Me If You Can
The Terminal
Hook
Minority Report
Lincoln
Amistad
A.I.

Ready Player One will probably be on his great list too.



There’s just too much diversity in his filmography across genres to not pick Spielberg imo.

There’s a great film for every mood, and he’s been working at such a high level for over 40 years so there is an abundance of greats to choose from.


It’s Spielberg for me


The Coens and Hitchcock are great options too.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:01 pm to
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Kubrick is obviously in the conversation. I think Billy Wilder is also in that conversation. Spielberg, Scorcese, Francis Ford Coppola, the Coens, Hitchcock, Lynch and Ridley Scott round out the rest of my top tier.

And I know that ignores greats from the past like DeMille, John Huston, John Ford, Howard Hawks and guys we forget are great directors (at times) like Clint Eastwood.


Agree with all of those and would add Orson Welles and Roberto Rossellini.
Posted by Jay Quest
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:47 pm to
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Who's better?

it's all subjective but for my money, Alfred Hitchcock was pretty darn good.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:54 pm to
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He is without a doubt the greatest technical filmmaker. The stuff he does is on another level from everyone else. His movies tend to be a bit cold and don't have the rewatchability factor for some people though.



My exact sentiments. I belive Kubrick to be tbe greatest visual filmmaker ever, and the only other director even remotely close to him is Malick (of course Malick has his own set of problems as a storyteller that put him in a whole different, not so positive category)

The "coldness" of Kubrick films is also a very real thing...and to me, it comes first from how he directed his actors, and then from lack of camera movement and sweeping shots like Spielberg and Scorsese, PTA, Tarantino, and even old timers like John Ford used to such great effect. It gave the pictures life and is very soothing and smooth to the eye.

Kubrick, though, shot his films like a still photographer... Which he was by trade, even as a teenager. It's how he learned film and it shows.

That why he, above anyone else, always used point perspective mad symmetry in his shots. It's why the stills of his scenes can be framed as world class photographs. Just look at the balance and geometry and starkness in these shots.




Even as far back as his first film, "Killers Kiss" linear shots were heavily featured. Really only "Barry Lyndon" was it not as heavily featured, because he was mimicing 18ty century paintings., but they were still full of traditional photographic balance.

It just wasn't quite as stark.

The guy was an absolute genius and could take on any genre, he just put his own somewhat twisted spin on it.

Personally, though, as much as I am a Kubrick fan and admirer of his work, it is hard to watch many of his films more than about once a year at the Most.they're just so heavy and often thought provoking.

That's why I always considered Spielberg probably as the greatest director ever. Does he have the street cred of Kubrick, no probably not... But his ability to make both artistic films, especially his earlier stuff, and make them into massive commercial successes cannot be understated. Kubrick, though, is probably the most respected filmmaker ever...eity maybe Kurosawa or Leone or Orson welles there too.
Posted by crash1211
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:54 pm to
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Kubrick is obviously in the conversation. I think Billy Wilder is also in that conversation. Spielberg, Scorcese, Francis Ford Coppola, the Coens, Hitchcock, Lynch and Ridley Scott round out the rest of my top tier. And I know that ignores greats from the past like DeMille, John Huston, John Ford, Howard Hawks and guys we forget are great directors (at times) like Clint Eastwood.

I'd also say Sidney Lumet should be in the conversation also.
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