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re: Inglorious Basterds
Posted on 9/5/09 at 12:34 am to Stingray
Posted on 9/5/09 at 12:34 am to Stingray
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I just don't get the rave reviews he gets from some people.
I can't speak for all of his fans... I also know others will shred this, but I can tell you what I love about QT. I love that you can tell the guy loves movies. Yeah, he blatantly takes ideas from other movies, but I think the way he does it pays homage to those movies....he's not just ripping it off. I think he takes those ideas, and twists them into his own vision to make something unique. In today's movies, everything's been done before. We're all kind of jaded movie fans getting harder and harder to impress; we all want to see something that we've never seen before. I love that with QT, you never know what you're going to get. Who could've seen how IB was going to end, or even his story in Four Rooms.
His dialogue is so real to me; I feel you get to know his characters. Even though two hit men are about to knock someone off, or there's about to be a shootout in a basement...the conversations are something you could hear at a table next to you in a restaurant.
I love how he can work all of his flourishes and trademarks into his movies..."trunk" shots, foot fetish shite, Mexican stand-offs, etc. I dig how all of his movies end on a "punchline." For me his movies stick with me, and lead to a lot of discussion after I've seen them...something else I think makes for the overall quality of the movie.
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Posted on 9/5/09 at 9:49 am to DanglingFury
A friend of mine and I were talking about Tarantino and IB yesterday. We've both seen lots of movies. Maybe we're jaded to some extent, or maybe we have high expectations. I don't know. Anyway, we both went into IB not expecting it to be very good. It was, at times, more entertaining than expected. QT has very good technique, and occasionally writes very good dialogue. But, in the end, his moview aren't about anything, really. They really don't say anything. They're actually almost vacuous. This guy is moving into middle age. I'd like to see him tell a grownup story with a point.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 11:25 am to VOR
uhmm...personally I believe there were many underlining points to the movie..
Posted on 9/5/09 at 11:28 am to LSUFAN06
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uhmm...personally I believe there were many underlining points to the movie..
yeah, maybe some obvious ones. the germans cheering a war movie just like an american audience watching nazis being killed . . . absurdity of war, blah, blah.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 11:35 am to VOR
well are those not points being made?
Posted on 9/5/09 at 12:01 pm to LSUFAN06
this was the best movie of the year as far as im concerned. District 9 is #2.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 12:18 pm to Stingray
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This movie lost all realism 5 minutes in, when the frenchman and the german decided to talk to each other in English.
I am beginning to hate Tarantino, he is slightly better than Bay.
Unlike most film makers, Tarantino wants you to be fully aware that you are watching a movie, and he heavily exploits it, and with it he makes the film far more epic and funny in the process. Making it unbelievable is certainly a good thing for this film.
And Bay couldn't write a single line of dialogue as good as Pulp[ Fiction or Inglourious Basterds.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 12:20 pm to Stingray
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It's a better line than "watching hitler get shot gave me a boner for america". What?
Its self aware though of what it is, hence the film within the film "A Nation's Pride" which just consists of Germans shooting Americans.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 12:23 pm to Walt OReilly
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I walked out of the movie about an 1 hour and half in to it...I was tired as shite and got tired of reading...i will just wait till DVD
I'm sorry that Tarantino didn't dumb it down and actually wanted intelligent people to see it rather than just mindless explosions. Stick with Bay.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 12:41 pm to LSUFAN06
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well are those not points being made?
Well, yeah. But it's not particularly deep. I just wish the guy, who obviously has some talent and technical chops, would make a serious movie.
He made the most influential movie of the '90's. I loved it. But I acknowledge it really didn't say shite (and I know that wasn't the purpose of the movie). Again, I'd like to see some more maturity and ambition from the guy.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 1:34 pm to VOR
loved it, most excited ive left the movie theater in a long time, cant wait to buy it and watch it again
Posted on 9/5/09 at 1:40 pm to VOR
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his moview aren't about anything, really. They really don't say anything. They're actually almost vacuous...But it's not particularly deep.
You just described 90% of movies. There are very few Schindler's Lists.
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I'd like to see some more maturity
This I can see sometimes...
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I'd like to see some more ...ambition from the guy.
This I don't agree with. Tarantino's one of the best director's of this generation. When he releases a movie it's an event. PF, KB, IB...are practically epics.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 5:11 pm to DanglingFury
I didn't hate it, but I also didn't like it very much. This is definitely a movie that I will not watch again.
By the way, I love how some of the dipshits on here like to equate slow and boring with intellectual.
You guys love to tell people to run back to their Transformer movies if they can't enjoy a movie like this.
Well, I tell you to stick Dinner with Andre up your arse. This movie was slow, dull for the most part and poorly edited.
The opening scene was way too long. I laughed my arse off when bear Jew took about 2 hours to come out of the tunnel in the bat scene. That was just a clear example of the poor direction in this movie. I mainly laughed at that scene because it reminded me so much of a scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
I think my main beef was the way the movie was marketed. I thought this was going to be a German killing rampage film and there was very little killing until the end. I thought this was going to border on horror with gore all over.
I have a feeling there must be more kills that were left on the cutting room floor . I think the Cannes cut of the film was over 3 hours. I know he was told after Cannes to cut the hell out of the movie so maybe the Director's cut will actual be more fun. I will probably give that cut a watch.
It just seemed to me like someone was holding Quentin back. This felt like Quentin lite. All of the language changes did mess with the flow of Quentin's snappy dialog. I have no problem with foreign language films, but I do think it messed with the rhythm of the movie.
A swing and a miss in my mind, but I am always happy that a studio gives Quentin a swing at the plate.
By the way, I love how some of the dipshits on here like to equate slow and boring with intellectual.
You guys love to tell people to run back to their Transformer movies if they can't enjoy a movie like this.
Well, I tell you to stick Dinner with Andre up your arse. This movie was slow, dull for the most part and poorly edited.
The opening scene was way too long. I laughed my arse off when bear Jew took about 2 hours to come out of the tunnel in the bat scene. That was just a clear example of the poor direction in this movie. I mainly laughed at that scene because it reminded me so much of a scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
I think my main beef was the way the movie was marketed. I thought this was going to be a German killing rampage film and there was very little killing until the end. I thought this was going to border on horror with gore all over.
I have a feeling there must be more kills that were left on the cutting room floor . I think the Cannes cut of the film was over 3 hours. I know he was told after Cannes to cut the hell out of the movie so maybe the Director's cut will actual be more fun. I will probably give that cut a watch.
It just seemed to me like someone was holding Quentin back. This felt like Quentin lite. All of the language changes did mess with the flow of Quentin's snappy dialog. I have no problem with foreign language films, but I do think it messed with the rhythm of the movie.
A swing and a miss in my mind, but I am always happy that a studio gives Quentin a swing at the plate.
This post was edited on 9/5/09 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 9/5/09 at 6:13 pm to OMLandshark
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I'm sorry that Tarantino didn't dumb it down and actually wanted intelligent people to see it rather than just mindless explosions. Stick with Bay.
I never said I didnt like it... I said I was tired and didnt feel like reading...never said it was a bad film...I actually said I plan on getting it on DVD you stupid count
Posted on 9/5/09 at 6:54 pm to TigerMyth36
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The opening scene was way too long.
For a lot of people that was an awesome scene, who are you to say that it was too long? Are you a 3rd year film student at UCLA? Worked in the editing booth?
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I have a feeling there must be more kills that were left on the cutting room floor . I think the Cannes cut of the film was over 3 hours.
It wasn't. It was almost identical to the Cannes version. You can read that in several interviews.
Myth...I agree with you from time to time, but not that often. I'm not trying to be a dick on this most special day, but most thought this was one of the strongest scenes in the movie. Why was it too long, what should they have cut out?
This post was edited on 9/5/09 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 9/6/09 at 9:05 am to DanglingFury
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You just described 90% of movies. There are very few Schindler's Lists.
Hmmm, I didn't say that his movies should be as monumental as a Schindler's List or even particularly profound. But I'd like to have him at least a) say something in his work or b) tell a grownup story.
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This I don't agree with. Tarantino's one of the best director's of this generation. When he releases a movie it's an event. PF, KB, IB...are practically epics.
Cerainly, he has technique and some talent (by the way, I didn't like KB 1 or 2). But I think a guy like, say, PT Anderson makes more interesting movies, even if they fail.
Like I said, I loved PF (as entertainment and for its innovation), and I actually liked IB more than I thought I would. But I'd also like to see if Tarantino can make a movie that tells a mature story without relying solely on flash.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 11:32 am to VOR
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But I'd also like to see if Tarantino can make a movie that tells a mature story without relying solely on flash.
He did already. It's called Jackie Brown
Posted on 9/6/09 at 11:43 am to Turkey Burger
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He did already. It's called Jackie Brown
It was enjoyable. But sort of a variation on PF in terms of characters, hijinx, etc.
Posted on 9/6/09 at 11:32 pm to Volvagia
Just saw it...Very good IMO...The fact that I walked away and was blown away by "Jew Hunter/Landa's" acting and the majority of his acitng was in subtitles speaks volumes for his acting ability. Award winning!
Spoiler...
2 questions:
1. Is this based on an actual plan that ever occured and did not go through, or is the movie theater burning down, 100% fiction?
2. How did the Nazis capture "Little Man" (the Temp from the tv show the Office)? Did I miss something? He was not in the theater ever so how did the Nazis capture him?
Spoiler...
2 questions:
1. Is this based on an actual plan that ever occured and did not go through, or is the movie theater burning down, 100% fiction?
2. How did the Nazis capture "Little Man" (the Temp from the tv show the Office)? Did I miss something? He was not in the theater ever so how did the Nazis capture him?
Posted on 9/7/09 at 8:30 am to Rattler
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1. Is this based on an actual plan that ever occured and did not go through, or is the movie theater burning down, 100% fiction?
All from Tarantino's imagination.
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2. How did the Nazis capture "Little Man" (the Temp from the tv show the Office)? Did I miss something? He was not in the theater ever so how did the Nazis capture him?
I think the whole plot was uncovered. Maybe he was picked up outside.
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