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I finished a complete watch of The Mary Tyler Moore Show
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:41 am
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:41 am
Not because of Ed Asner's recent death, as I had started it before that occurred. There really was no reason I started it other than seeing it on Hulu and realizing I had never watched every episode. There was some nostalgia as it was my mom's favorite show and I can remember being home sick from school as a kid and reruns were playing on some channel and she and I watched it together every day that week.
Anyway, it really is a show worthy of all the hype it receives. To today's standard the humor is a bit campy and corny, but watching it you can tell there is really good chemistry with the cast, and they play really well off each other. One thing that struck me, and made me wonder if it was the first show to really address it, was its casualness to single women talking about sex out of marriage. I always knew it had a feminist angle to it, given its title and it following a single woman making it in a male dominated world, but the sex thing was pretty prevalent in almost every episode. Can't imagine that was real common in the mid 70's, but maybe I'm wrong. I certainly can't think of any other sitcom from that era that was that frank about it.
Also kinda crazy that Betty White has outlived MTM, Ed Asner, Gavin McLeod and Cloris Leachman.
Anyway, it really is a show worthy of all the hype it receives. To today's standard the humor is a bit campy and corny, but watching it you can tell there is really good chemistry with the cast, and they play really well off each other. One thing that struck me, and made me wonder if it was the first show to really address it, was its casualness to single women talking about sex out of marriage. I always knew it had a feminist angle to it, given its title and it following a single woman making it in a male dominated world, but the sex thing was pretty prevalent in almost every episode. Can't imagine that was real common in the mid 70's, but maybe I'm wrong. I certainly can't think of any other sitcom from that era that was that frank about it.
Also kinda crazy that Betty White has outlived MTM, Ed Asner, Gavin McLeod and Cloris Leachman.
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 12:29 pm to The Spleen
I'd rather go back and watch old shows from the 60s and 70s than sit through the vast majority of programming out there today...especially since it's like watching most of them for the first time.
MTM and The Bob Newhart Show were probably my favorite sitcoms from the 70s. Recently watched every episode of Newhart on youtube. Was really bummed to get to that brilliant finale.
MTM and The Bob Newhart Show were probably my favorite sitcoms from the 70s. Recently watched every episode of Newhart on youtube. Was really bummed to get to that brilliant finale.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 12:30 pm to The Spleen
quote:I agree. It's an alltime great. I grew up watching Nick at Night with my parents in the living room before I was trusted to have a tv in my room. I'm pretty sure I've seen every episode but never in sequence but it's a great quality show that holds up well.
There was some nostalgia as it was my mom's favorite show and I can remember being home sick from school as a kid and reruns were playing on some channel and she and I watched it together every day that week.
Anyway, it really is a show worthy of all the hype it receives. To today's standard the humor is a bit campy and corny, but watching it you can tell there is really good chemistry with the cast, and they play really well off each other.
quote:Probably because she has the healthiest sex life.
Also kinda crazy that Betty White has outlived MTM, Ed Asner, Gavin McLeod and Cloris Leachman.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 1:21 pm to The Spleen
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One thing that struck me, and made me wonder if it was the first show to really address it, was its casualness to single women talking about sex out of marriage.
it was groundbreaking
especially for MTM...recall that her previous show (dick van dyke) portrayed a married couple sleeping in separate beds
Posted on 9/16/21 at 1:55 pm to The Spleen
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casualness to single women talking about sex out of marriage
That Rhoda was such a Ho.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 2:25 pm to The Spleen
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I always knew it had a feminist angle to it, given its title and it following a single woman making it in a male dominated world
Wasn't the original premise that her fiance dumped her and that prompted her to take stock of her life and strike out on her own in a strange, new, city?
Posted on 9/16/21 at 2:27 pm to The Spleen
On the open talk about sexuality, it seems like Penny Marshall was the first tv character to say the word "pregnant" on the Odd Couple.
Not sure if that's accurate but I read it somewhere awhile back.
Not sure if that's accurate but I read it somewhere awhile back.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 2:45 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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Wasn't the original premise that her fiance dumped her and that prompted her to take stock of her life and strike out on her own in a strange, new, city?
They wanted her to be a divorcee, but they were afraid that everyone would assume that meant a divorce from Dick Van Dyke (Which was true, a lot of people assumed they were married in real life.) They switched to her and her fiancé breaking up.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 2:48 pm to DaleGribble
quote:I'm on the last season of The Bob Newhart Show right now. I didn't realize that it made it all the way into 1978. I was a senior in high school and too busy for a lot of TV then. Seeing them in a new apartment is throwing me for a loop.
Recently watched every episode of Newhart on youtube. Was really bummed to get to that brilliant finale.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 2:49 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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Wasn't the original premise that her fiance dumped her and that prompted her to take stock of her life and strike out on her own in a strange, new, city?
Yeah, except Phyllis(Cloris Leachman) was an old friend that had an available apartment in her building. So not completely on her own, but pretty close.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 2:50 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I'm on the last season of The Bob Newhart Show right now
well then you have to watch Newhart... Til the end
Posted on 9/16/21 at 2:55 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I'm on the last season of The Bob Newhart Show right now. I didn't realize that it made it all the way into 1978. I was a senior in high school and too busy for a lot of TV then. Seeing them in a new apartment is throwing me for a loop.
I've got the series on my hard drive, but I've never gotten around to watching them in order. Used to love watching random episodes when reruns were airing on TBS and Nick at Nite, but I don't think I've ever seen any episodes with a new apartment either.
Between being filmed on video tape and interior set of the Inn, I never really cared for the look of Newhart but it's such a great show. I'd even like to see his show that bombed in the 90s but I've never ran across it.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 2:57 pm to DaleGribble
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:00 pm to MorbidTheClown
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well then you have to watch Newhart... Til the end
My mom loved this show as well. Maybe it's because I miss my mom, but hearing the MTM, Newhart, and Designing Women opening themes brings me comfort. Probably her 3 favorite shows, along with St Elsewhere. Those shows were on, and she commanded the TV that night.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:03 pm to The Spleen
kind of the same reason i still watch gunsmoke and bonanza. my dad loved those shows.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:00 pm to MorbidTheClown
The episode where Daryl took his cut of the jingle money and moved into a commune was one of my favorite episodes. All of the episodes that took place at the tv station were great too(Pirate Pete).
By the time that they added Julia Duffy and Peter Scolari, they had a perfect cast.
By the time that they added Julia Duffy and Peter Scolari, they had a perfect cast.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:05 pm to The Spleen
Watching late 70s/early 80s shows can be great because there was a lot of social change going on, or at least Hollywood was trying hard to make it so.
I ramble often here about making a Dallas watch a while back and it was great in many different ways.
I ramble often here about making a Dallas watch a while back and it was great in many different ways.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:10 pm to Havoc
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Watching late 70s/early 80s shows can be great because there was a lot of social change going on, or at least Hollywood was trying hard to make it so.
I love watching shows from that era, because that's the era I grew up in. But TMTM show debuted in 1970, and it was pretty early in the first season they broached that single Mary was sexually active. I forget how they did it, but remember it being very subtle. Subtle enough most kids would not have picked up on it. Kinda crazy to think about, especially when you take into account how popular it was.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:21 pm to The Spleen
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they broached that single Mary was sexually active. I forget how they did it, but remember it being very subtle.
Not sure if this is it, but Mary's parents were over and her mother shouted back, "Don't forget to take your pill!" and both Mary and her father said, "I will."
Followed by an uncomfortable glance between the two.
BTW, the actor who played Mary's dad was in real life Bob Newhart's father in law. He also played Archie Bunker's blind bar buddy.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:29 pm to Fewer Kilometers
May have. I watched the first season back around Thanksgiving last year, so it's taken me a while to get through the whole series. I do remember that scene.
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