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Hot Take: J. Demme had a knack for actors who performed glorified supporting roles.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:19 pm
There’s a lot that’s already been said about Sir Anthony’s Lecter being a glorified supporting role, but Tom Hank’s Andy Beckett was more of a supporting role, wasn’t it? We see the movie through Denzel’s POV and he has the dramatic arc.
Not a Demme movie, but a similar thing happens in Rain Man with weird perceptions of Hoffman being the lead role when Tom Cruise was, by every reasonably standard, the lead.
Not a Demme movie, but a similar thing happens in Rain Man with weird perceptions of Hoffman being the lead role when Tom Cruise was, by every reasonably standard, the lead.
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:44 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Demme had a knack for casting, period. Dude was an amazing director.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 6:47 am to UndercoverBryologist
Ray Liotta in Something Wild makes the entire movie.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:12 am to UndercoverBryologist
Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington were co-leads together in Philadelphia. While the film is seen though Washington's eyes, and while he has the arc to go on top of that, both men receive roughly the same amount of screen time. Contrast that with The Silence of the Lambs where Anthony Hopkins is 100% a supporting role. He got nominated for lead actor via something Oscar-watchers call "category fraud." It's when the movie studio decides to campaign for an actor in a category they probably shouldn't be in. Most of the time it involves an actor in a lead role who the studio campaigns in a supporting acting category because of their increased chances of winning. Anthony Hopkins specifically requested that the studio campaign him in the lead category.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 8:32 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:01 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Not a Demme movie, but a similar thing happens in Rain Man with weird perceptions of Hoffman being the lead role when Tom Cruise was, by every reasonably standard, the lead.
I've referenced this multiple times on here but Michael Caine was on something like Inside the Actor's Studio back in the late 80s/early 90s and he made essentially that point. That Hoffman's Raymond was fine, but it was mostly one note. He found that sweet spot and stayed there the whole time. The movie revolves around Tom Cruise's performance. We watch him grow throughout and we experience what it's like to be with Raymond through him. that of the two Cruise clearly gave the better acting performance.
Rewatching it again with my sons a few months ago, this really is true. We kind of thought it was just Tom Cruise being Tom Cruise then, but he carries the entire movie.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:07 am to flvelo12
quote:He was great in that role.
Ray Liotta in Something Wild makes the entire movie.
Was the first thing I saw him in. Seeing him as a good guy, playing Shoeless Joe Jackson in Field of Dreams, was kind of shocking. The next year he did Goodfellas, and Hollywood knew he was better in maniacal roles. He spent the rest of his life playing mostly bad guy roles. He was great as a mob guy and as a dirty cop. Sometimes he was a bad guy who redeemed himself, but he nearly always wore a black hat. In the only Western I can remember him from, he played for the good guys, being cast as an Alamo survivor, but his character was, "A self-appointed angel of death who killed the people who killed his family.”
I also remember Melanie Griffith as the girl you wouldn't take home to Mom.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:20 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Not a Demme movie, but a similar thing happens in Rain Man with weird perceptions of Hoffman being the lead role when Tom Cruise was, by every reasonably standard, the lead
But was he though?
You can make a movie about Dustin Hoffman's Rain Man without Charlie Babbitt. But without Ray, who is Charlie Babbit and why does he matter?
I dunno, seems to me Dustin Hoffman is the lead here. His is the role the movie centers around.
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