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re: Greatest Western of All-Time?

Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:56 am to
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:56 am to
Hank Fonda's character made that movie tho. Well, him and Cheyenne.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:11 pm to
Glad you got it right in the OP.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:21 pm to
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For some reason I think "Little Big Man" should be ranked up there- different kind of Western for its time...


I think there could even be a category for "non-traditional" westerns - movies that don't fit neatly, such as The Wild Bunch, Little Big Man, Dances With Wolves (although I'm not a big Dances fan).

But, once you do that, do you put the Leone films or, heck even Unforgiven and Butch and Sundance? Then the categories start to lose their distinction.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:46 pm to
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I think there could even be a category for "non-traditional" westerns - movies that don't fit neatly, such as The Wild Bunch, Little Big Man, Dances With Wolves (although I'm not a big Dances fan).


Culpepper Cattle Company and Rancho Deluxe would be at the top of my list.
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:53 pm to
Clearly not enough people here have seen the Wild Bunch
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 2:41 pm to
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Clearly not enough people here have seen the Wild Bunch


I have to admit, I didn't catch it until much later, only about 5 or 6 years ago. A bunch of William Holden fans haven't seen it is what perplexes me.

It's probably more important as a film, than a western. That was right at the time of transitioning from the classic filmmaking techniques (which were films of elaborately staged plays in most instances) to the more modern, gritty, "realistic" filmmaking of the 70s, which spanned all genres.

Where Citizen Kane showed how various technical filmmaking techniques could enhance storytelling in a character drama, Peckinpah, with The Wild Bunch began to shed light on how this could be done, thoughtfully, effectively in an action-oriented film
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 2:43 pm to
Could we give serious consideration to No Country for Old Men as a western? It might not have some of the same typical themes and characters, but I think it could be called a modern western.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 2:47 pm to
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Could we give serious consideration to No Country for Old Men as a western?


Well, it's an homage, certainly. A "post" western, perhaps. I think it has an argument for being an outstanding film, regardless of genre, but it certainly fits in with western films as well as any other genre, other than pure crime drama.
Posted by Shanesix
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 3:00 pm to
SHANE -- for obvious reasons
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Posted by Zamoro10
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 3:03 pm to
If No Country is a Western then so is Red Rock West.
Posted by Rougarou4lsu
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:02 pm to
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Posted by Rougarou4lsu
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 4:05 pm to
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are you retarded or illiterate?
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No, missed it. I'm kinda busy...I have a job. Not like you who can hang out all day on the computer and post almost 30,000 times in less that 3 years princess.
Posted by madcap
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 5:52 pm to
I agree with those who said they are big Eastwood fans ( The Outlaw Josey Wales - The Good the Bad and the Ugly - Unforgiven ), but I also have to go with Once Upon a Time in the West.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 5:55 pm
Posted by AUMomFromTX
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 6:21 pm to
John Wayne & The Cowboys (Bruce Dern was a GREAT Badguy... HATED Him), Unforgiven, Tombstone, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
Posted by heatom2
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 8:22 pm to
I'm glad to see that Open Range is getting love here. To me it has everything you want in a western.

Hard to say what the GOAT is.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 9:34 pm to
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Once Upon a Time in the West.



Another trivia tidbit - once Eastwood passed on the lead for this film, Sergio wanted Eastwood, Van Cleef and Wallach to play the guys waiting around the station for Harmonica. They couldn't make it happen, but it would have been great.
Posted by auyushu
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 10:56 pm to
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Another trivia tidbit - once Eastwood passed on the lead for this film, Sergio wanted Eastwood, Van Cleef and Wallach to play the guys waiting around the station for Harmonica. They couldn't make it happen, but it would have been great.



That would have been fantastic. Though Jack Elam was perfect in his part at the beginning with the fly.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 10:59 pm to
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Clearly not enough people here have seen the Wild Bunch



The Wild Bunch is outstanding, it's one of my top 50 movies of all time, it just wouldn't be my top western of all time. It'd be in my top 5-7 westerns, just not top couple.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 12:16 am to
This thread pops up every few weeks so by now everyone should know the answer is always Lonesome Dove.
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 3/30/13 at 5:44 am to
Lonesome Dove and Unforgiven tie for me.
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
Open Range is cool.

I have to mention Quigly Down under. It's not the GOAT, but I like it.
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