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re: Game of Thrones S6E7 "The Broken Man" (book reader thread - NO LEAKS)
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:53 pm to UncleBlazer
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:53 pm to UncleBlazer
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Because he was doing the right thing,
Not debatable in any way.
Every single body left N of TW is another soldier of the dead. Thorne's gallows speech was so much eloquent ignorance.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 5:57 pm
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:55 pm to OMLandshark
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No it would be shitty writing for Varys to actually be interested in the well being of Rhaegar's child. If he had any interest in Rhaegar and truly meant what he said in "doing what's good for the Realm", he would have conspired to put Rhaegar on the Iron Throne. Instead he drives a wedge even further between Aerys and Rhaegar and watches the realm burn. It makes no sense why Varys would want to protect Rhaegar's child.
Well I mean we don't know that Varys didn't. We know Rhaegar wanted to call a council to dethrone Aerys. Could have been Varys was plating things in his and his allies' ears.
I don't buy for a second that Varys gives a shite about the realm. You think him and Illyrio would have the same power through Rhaegar or a boy they helped when he had nothing to offer them. Aegon owes them everything.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:56 pm to 19
Guys can we stop arguing about faegon and talk about the fact that Syrio Forel is going to save Arya this week?
Posted on 6/7/16 at 5:59 pm to 19
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Meaning its not crackpot, instead basically spoon-fed to the reader.
They're still theories, not facts. And they're more widely accepted than fAegon. shite, all I'm saying is fAegon isn't the 2nd most accepted theory, and that's pretty obvious.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:00 pm to UMRealist
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Syrio Forel is going to save Arya this week?
He whipped Trant with only wooden sword hilts.
It is known.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:03 pm to UncleBlazer
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The show is not the books.
They're more similar than different. Jon's parents, Theon's betrayal, howland Reed being the high sparrow, these are all the same in the books and the show, so comparisons are fair.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:05 pm to LucasP
You sneaky frick 
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:07 pm to blueboy
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So important that he is not and will not be in the show.
What does that have to do with anything? We already know D&D are doing their own thing. Hell, I think their reason is that casual watchers won't understand two Targaryen usurpers. And I've already said I don't think Aegon will be important in the end game, only his death.
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Yeah. You lost too much. That little hot-head punk primadonna is going to be running for his life all season long.
I mean really call me a Ole Miss fig unprovoked in a game of thrones thread. And Ole Miss is going to beat the frick out of LSU again so suck my dick you fricking try hard
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:07 pm to wildtigercat93
Saw that shite, huh?
Me too.
Me too.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:10 pm to UncleBlazer
Chances of Aegon being a Targ is very slim IMHO.
chances of him being a Blackfyre through Illyrios wife are much better.
I enjoyed his storyline for what it was, especially whe Tyrion was with them. But in the long run it was just another side story (except on the off chance that he would go North to help in the wars against the Others).
chances of him being a Blackfyre through Illyrios wife are much better.
I enjoyed his storyline for what it was, especially whe Tyrion was with them. But in the long run it was just another side story (except on the off chance that he would go North to help in the wars against the Others).
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:10 pm to UncleBlazer
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His death at Dany's hands will be her final step into madness and tyranny.
It seems very odd to introduce such a major player AND an heir to the throne that late in the series, especially if his purpose is only to be a sacrificial lamb.
Also, I'm pretty sure that Viserys was the one with the madness gene. Dany will not go mad and will not be a tyrant. In fact, after she helps get rid of the WW for good, I think she'll end up stepping down from any kind of rule to find her metaphorical house with the red door and lemon tree.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:13 pm to UncleBlazer
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We already know D&D are doing their own thing.
Now this is a fact.
Can't use the show to 100% confirm thys in the books.
Not even the Howlandreedian Theorem
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:15 pm to MardiGrasRazorback
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:15 pm to Methuselah
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I enjoyed his storyline for what it was, especially whe Tyrion was with them. But in the long run it was just another side story (except on the off chance that he would go North to help in the wars against the Others).
Yeah I've said as much. His is a side story whether he is Rhaegar's son or not. I agree there's a good chance he's a blackfyre, but it really doesn't matter too much in the end game.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:17 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:17 pm to UncleBlazer
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Gravedigger=Hound, Alleras=Sarella, Bloodraven are just 3 off the top of my head
1) We all knew the Hound was coming back. He had unfinished business with his brother and Arya couldn't bring herself to kill him. The fact that we were all looking for a tall guy in the Riverlands isn't that far of a stretch that he's the Gravedigger. Plus the show has now basically confirmed this is the case.
2) No one gives a shite about this theory. No one discusses it for a minute or so. It really means nothing and it's not all that clever. Reversing the spelling and it being the actual person is something I could have come up with in middle school. Plus I doubt this has any major significance on the plot.
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Bloodraven are just 3 off the top of my head
Confirmed in ADWD, so not a theory anymore.
I'd put fAegon as a higher and more respected theory than any of those listed. There's just as much evidence for it as R+L=J.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:19 pm to LucasP
quote:Dude. Let it go.
They're more similar than different. Jon's parents, Theon's betrayal, howland Reed being the high sparrow, these are all the same in the books and the show, so comparisons are fair.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:19 pm to UncleBlazer
If anyone would answer the call and put the good of the realm before himself it would be him. And they could certainly use his forces up north when the shite hits the fan. But I'm not sure that his followers would go along.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:22 pm to MardiGrasRazorback
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Also, I'm pretty sure that Viserys was the one with the madness gene. Dany will not go mad and will not be a tyrant. In fact, after she helps get rid of the WW for good, I think she'll end up stepping down from any kind of rule to find her metaphorical house with the red door and lemon tree.
She can't trust anyone around her because of a prophecy. Remind you of anyone? cough cersei cough. She has already shown how cruel she can be and is obsessed with how she has to be a queen and ruler.
I just can't buy the fact that atheist, feminist, GRRM wrote his magnum opus to end with the continued reign of feudalism.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:24 pm to UncleBlazer
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Debatable. Also, Jon is like Ned in that he can't convey his actions to other people. If Jon sat down with Bowen and had a long talk about what he was doing and why, maybe he could help Bowen understand. Jon would be assassinated in King's Landing much faster
I don't care how well Jon explains it, the vast majority of the Realm sees the Night's Watch only real duty is to keep the Wildlings out. The Night's Watch has loathed the Wildings for thousands of years, and that will blind them to the reasoning behind Jon's actions.
Jon's closeness with them was inevitably going to get him killed. If Mormont survived and implemented this, he would have in all likelihood have been killed as well. Aside from open treachery of the ruling family, I don't see anything in King's Landing that would get him killed as quickly as what Jon had to do to win the War against the Others.
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