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re: Game of Thrones S6E7 "The Broken Man" (book reader thread - NO LEAKS)

Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:16 pm to
Sorry I thought you meant Jamie as the younger brother. But you're still covered because Tyrion would do it on either!

Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:20 pm to
Well she said THE valonqar will kill her not YOUR valonqar. So basically anyone's little brother can kill her.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:20 pm to
I see
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:24 pm to
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Well she said THE valonqar will kill her not YOUR valonqar. So basically anyone's little brother can kill her.



I feel that's cheap. Reading Cersei's POV chapters, the thought clearly hasn't even crossed her mind that Jaime may be the Valonqar. You'd think anyone of reasonable intelligence or humility would be considering this, but not Cersei. That level of arrogance has to bite her in the arse, and it better not be in the form of Sandor Clegane or Loras Tyrell.
Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:26 pm to
Well, if Sandor defeats Gregor in the trial by combat, he will essentially have killed her as well by proving her "guilty".
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:29 pm to
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Well, if Sandor defeats Gregor in the trial by combat, he will essentially have killed her as well by proving her "guilty".



I'd rather see it happen in a different set of circumstances so we don't interfere with Cersei's arc and make it all about the Hound really. I've always been partial to Sandor killing his brother with a flaming sword as the ultimate "frick You" in return.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:29 pm to
I already said that a few pages ago; but thanks for playing.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:31 pm to
There's two big differences from the books to the show.

In the books Cersei and Jaime don't love each other. In the show they do.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:45 pm to
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Well, if Sandor defeats Gregor in the trial by combat, he will essentially have killed her as well by proving her "guilty".
And before she dies, Tommen is assassinated, and she gets "strangled" by Gregor's little brother with a noose, during her execution.

It was easy for her to get Tommen to drink poison when he was a little kid and didn't know what was going on. I doubt it would go down that way in the end.

Considering that the show decided Doran should be killed for being a "weak man" ruler, I could see Marge killing him for failing to grow a pair and get her out of jail.

Therefore, she loses the trial and while she's waiting for her execution, Tommen is killed off. Her family loses all control of the throne and she dies almost willingly, hanged by The Hound.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:48 pm to
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It was easy for her to get Tommen to drink poison when he was a little kid and didn't know what was going on. I doubt it would go down that way in the end.



May not go down that way in the show, but in the books Tommen is 9, sweet, and far too trusting. Sure a 15 year old may think through what he's drinking, but I think Tommen will do as he's told by his mother in the books.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:02 pm to
If Cerceis excecuted, I think you might be on to something with Margery. She could use her influence with the HS (or without) to kill tommen and become the queen regent and basically seize the throne for the Tyrells. Its risky to put the throne in flux like that but the HS could give her the support of the people
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:04 pm to
Since LF uses the Batman voice it's only right

Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:14 pm to
That's a nasty looking dude
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:17 pm to
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That's a nasty looking dude


that head has been decomposing for a while

Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:18 pm to
For sure. Robert Strong probably stinks.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:21 pm to
Here's a question that definitely doesn't deserve it's own thread,but I'm curious nonetheless:

What exactly is the deal with the style of belt that pretty much EVERYBODY and his brother wears on the show - where the end of the belt kind of loops underneath then hangs down? Is that something that was always used in the real middle ages or something?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:56 pm to
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If Cerceis excecuted, I think you might be on to something with Margery. She could use her influence with the HS (or without) to kill tommen and become the queen regent and basically seize the throne for the Tyrells. Its risky to put the throne in flux like that but the HS could give her the support of the people


I agree with everything on this except the HS is playing the old game of divide and conquer. Once you get rid of the Lannisters, the Tyrell's can unite a force to overthrow this newfound theocracy.

You're right it's risky; but it's their Hail Mary.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:59 pm to
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What exactly is the deal with the style of belt that pretty much EVERYBODY and his brother wears on the show


It's like the webbed belts from the eighties and [insert any affiliation here] belts with the silver tags proclaiming your love for something belts that are out today.

It's trendy in the world of ASOIAF; but not high fashion.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:34 am to
Has anyone been checking out the fark board's "Nicolas Cage as Got Characters" thread.

The highlights:

























and a Pain Train masterpiece:



Posted by DannyB
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 12:56 am to
I watched a synopsis and thoughts by a guy named SmokeScreen on youtube on all of Bran's visions from last episode that was pretty good.

In the video the guy talks about that he thinks the visions Bran had were the weirwood matrix giving Bran what he needed to know to fight the Others (people and weapons) and the visions were all about Ice and Fire.

The Dragons
Wildfire
Dragonglass
Jon (TOJ)
Dany - first time Bran has seen Dany and he will be instrumental in getting her to join the fight against the Others.
Valyrian steel (John killing White Walker at Hardehome)
Coldhands - Benjen (The Ravens)

Also gives a pretty good explanation of the Mad King. That is was the 3ER that drove Aerys crazy and was shown to Bran as a warning not to frick with the past again, ie. Hodor, since the 3ER told Bran, "The past is already written. The ink is dry."

Also from his Episode recap, the 3ER could be Bloodraven (even though the 3ER claims he hass been there for a thousand years). Meera picks up a sword in the weirwood tree that could possibly be the Valyrian steel sword, The Dark Sister, that Bryndon Rivers carried. It is shown leaning up against the tree during the second scene with Bran, Meera, and Coldben.
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