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re: Game of Thrones S6:E3 "Oathbreaker" Bookreader Thread
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:58 am to TearsofKnowshon
Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:58 am to TearsofKnowshon
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So Cersei is going to request a trial by combat with the mountain as her champion?
And just as the Mountain is about to defeat the Hound, the High Sparrow stabs the Mountain from behind, just as he did to Arthur Dayne when he was known as Howland Reed.
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 8:59 am to PsychTiger
I'm really hoping Jaime leaves KL soon. I don't like it when he's with Cersei.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:01 am to PsychTiger
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And just as the Mountain is about to defeat the Hound, the High Sparrow stabs the Mountain from behind, just as he did to Arthur Dayne when he was known as Howland Reed.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:04 am to AlabamaAlum07
quote:So you saw Umber refuse to kneel, refuse to swear loyalty, call Ramsay's father a count, rightfully accuse Ramsay of murdering him, basically call Karstark a pedo and you still think it's not happening?
Well I think it's safe to say there won't be a GNC on the show. Guess Greatjon died at the Red Wedding too instead of just being taken hostage.
Ramsay already mentioned Manderly as being one of his allies, and there's no way the show is going to play him simply as an ancillary, boring Bolton ally. His character is one of the most likeable in the books. His plot, the pies and his drunken taunts at the banquet are among the best chapters in the books.
Also, this might just be my imagination, but Natalia Tena (Osha) is a pretty good actress and veteran of many films. Go watch the Rickon scene again. Right as they're plopping the wolf head onto the table, she goes from being flustered to cold and slowly looks up at Rickon as if to say "you need to make this convincing."
Even if that's not true, I still say it's happening.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:05 am to ladytiger118
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I'm really hoping Jaime leaves KL soon. I don't like it when he's with Cersei.
I'm holding out D&D keep him closer to the book version because I think his internal self versus the Kingslayer persona is one of my favorite characters. However, I'm losing hope with the frickery of Umbers, Dorne, and Shaggy's head lopping.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:08 am to blueboy
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Go watch the Rickon scene again. Right as they're plopping the wolf head onto the table, she goes from being flustered to cold and slowly looks up at Rickon as if to say "you need to make this convincing."
Even if that's not true, I still say it's happening
I agree. Littlejon even bringing her to Ramsey makes no sense. He only needs Rickon and Shaggy if he wanted to convince Ramsey. I think it's a strategic gamble on their part to rid them of Ramsey.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 9:09 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:08 am to Papercutninja
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but I am sad to see Thorne die.
Why? He was a selfish prick who couldn't look past his hate of Jon to see that what Jon was doing was the right thing. Their oath is to protect the realms of men. It doesn't say anything about "we must commit treason if a LC wants to let a Wildling through the Wall." Hell, the Wall wasn't built for Wildlings, it was built for the freaking White Walkers.
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Thorne represented the cold logic of duty. Duty doesn't care about your feelings and duty isn't there to make friends. Duty is there to see it through, to see that the job is done
No, he acted solely on feelings. He hated Jon. He looked for every chance to betray him and he did so in the dark when true Brothers of the Watch were not around. His duty was to protect the realms of men and he wanted 100,000 extra wights at the White Walkers disposal. If Thorne had his way, he would have been responsible for the entire destruction of Westeros. Protect the realm my arse.
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Thorne was a count, but he and men like him are why the Watch has been able to last for as long as it has.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:14 am to fr33manator
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What of it, Bear of Color?
I think they prefer the term "African Bearican."
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:14 am to blueboy
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So you saw Umber refuse to kneel, refuse to swear loyalty, call Ramsay's father a count, rightfully accuse Ramsay of murdering him, basically call Karstark a pedo and you still think it's not happening?
Ramsay already mentioned Manderly as being one of his allies, and there's no way the show is going to play him simply as an ancillary, boring Bolton ally. His character is one of the most likeable in the books. His plot, the pies and his drunken taunts at the banquet are among the best chapters in the books.
Also, this might just be my imagination, but Natalia Tena (Osha) is a pretty good actress and veteran of many films. Go watch the Rickon scene again. Right as they're plopping the wolf head onto the table, she goes from being flustered to cold and slowly looks up at Rickon as if to say "you need to make this convincing."
Even if that's not true, I still say it's happening.
Why would Osha agree to that though? "So part of this plan involves me getting raped and flayed alive? Sign me up!"
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:16 am to Linkovich
quote:It's okay to kill Ramsay (and hopefully a lot of Freys) in a grand scene in season 6. He's not the real enemy. They have to fight the army of the dead.
I agree. Littlejon even bringing her to Ramsey makes no sense. He only needs Rickon and Shaggy if he wanted to convince Ramsey. I think it's a strategic gamble on their part to rid them of Ramsey.
This might be this season's E9. The great Bolton/Frey frick you blood orgy.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:19 am to blueboy
Good point.
You think she'll frick Ramsey for her freedom like she did Theon?.
You think she'll frick Ramsey for her freedom like she did Theon?
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:24 am to ladytiger118
Put me in the GNC believer group.
• That was not shaggy dog.
• The whole point of getting Rickon there was to get Osha close enough to stab Ramsey.
• The Umbers are Stark loyalists through and through. He didn't bend the knee which is an obvious giveaway.
• The fact that he also knew about Roose getting killed shows that there is some communication with the Karstarks. (If lord Karstark was "loyal" to Ramsey he would have kept his mouth shut)
The GNC is happening. deal with it.
• That was not shaggy dog.
• The whole point of getting Rickon there was to get Osha close enough to stab Ramsey.
• The Umbers are Stark loyalists through and through. He didn't bend the knee which is an obvious giveaway.
• The fact that he also knew about Roose getting killed shows that there is some communication with the Karstarks. (If lord Karstark was "loyal" to Ramsey he would have kept his mouth shut)
The GNC is happening. deal with it.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:24 am to AlabamaAlum07
quote:Why is she there to begin with? Maybe it's just the show reminding people who Rickon is because his actor has aged and she's very recognizable.
Why would Osha agree to that though?
Also, she swore to protect him. Letting him be put at risk like that without being there to defend him wouldn't honor that very well.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:29 am to blueboy
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Why would Osha agree to that though?
She's a pretty tough character. I'm sure when given the opportunity to possibly put a sword through Ramsey she would have been interested (and tough enough) to handle it. She has also seemed to have grown to love and become protecting of Rickon (and the Stark family)
Why not risk it, given the chance for vengeance?
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:31 am to PsychTiger
My biggest gripe is if you're going to kill the dire wolf to prove that's Rickon just send a fRickon. There's no reason to put his life in danger.
Edit: that's assuming they're still part of the GNC.
Edit: that's assuming they're still part of the GNC.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 9:34 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:32 am to bamabenny
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Anyone catch how Tyrions wine glass had a different level of wine every time they switched on and off of him?
it's because of the time travel yo
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:33 am to StarSaint
I believe in GNC but that was Shaggy.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:35 am to ladytiger118
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You think she'll frick Ramsey for her freedom like she did Theon? .
Maybe she cuts of his wiener.Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:38 am to Bamatab
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And at the first sighting of Jon, Ramsay would kill Rickon right in front of him, and the Umber know it.
This is why I don't think it would work for them to play this out as a trap set by the Umbers. Ramsay could have very easily said thanks and then fed Rickon to his dogs immediately. No way they risk it or subjecting Rickon and Asha to torture and mutilation. However, just because it would be a stupid thing that doesn't make any damned sense doesn't mean that isn't exactly how D&D will write it.
I guess there is also the possibility that it's not really Rickon. I can't tell if it's the same actor. He didn't say anything. Maybe it's the mute.
Can't see anybody agreeing to be that decoy though.This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:40 am to StarSaint
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he fact that he also knew about Roose getting killed shows that there is some communication with the Karstarks. (If lord Karstark was "loyal" to Ramsey he would have kept his mouth shut)
I don't think that is true. I think the Umbers just realize that Ramsay is a mad dog. I think Karstark is actually loyal to Ramsay.
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