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Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:54 am to wildtigercat93
I looked at the leaked pictures. This episode is going to be great 
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:07 pm to ladytiger118
I watched E9 again last night and I think I might be in the camp that believes Davos strongly suspected what was going to happen to Shireen, and I don't see how this isn't the end of Stannis and Davos' association. Davos just doen't seem like the kind of guy who would even begrudgingly go along with that.
I guess we're not getting the pink letter, seeing as how Stannis' letter is likely the one Jon is reading in the picture. Of course, maybe Stannis' letter is the pink letter, but that would be a pretty huge spoiler. Either way, it still means that Jon has to break his vows to leave The Wall, so the group stabbing is still possible.
I'm not sure where they're going with putting Trystane on the small council, but whatever. At least they're apparently not going to maim Myrcella - hopefully.
I guess we're not getting the pink letter, seeing as how Stannis' letter is likely the one Jon is reading in the picture. Of course, maybe Stannis' letter is the pink letter, but that would be a pretty huge spoiler. Either way, it still means that Jon has to break his vows to leave The Wall, so the group stabbing is still possible.
I'm not sure where they're going with putting Trystane on the small council, but whatever. At least they're apparently not going to maim Myrcella - hopefully.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:10 pm to blueboy
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I think I might be in the camp that believes Davos strongly suspected what was going to happen to Shireen, and I don't see how this isn't the end of Stannis and Davos' association.
I just can't see him walking away from Shireen if he had any suspicion she was going to be burned alive. He defied Stannis (which is a huge deal for him ) and freed Gendric despite having no attachment to him.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:13 pm to blueboy
I think he knew they were about to die in the snow. That's why he was trying to convince Stannis to retreat the episode before.
I don't believe for a second that he would leave knowing that he was going to Burn her. Nor do I think that he believes that Stannis could actually do such a thing
I don't believe for a second that he would leave knowing that he was going to Burn her. Nor do I think that he believes that Stannis could actually do such a thing
Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:15 pm to wildtigercat93
Agree.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:23 pm to wildtigercat93
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I don't believe for a second that he would leave knowing that he was going to Burn her. Nor do I think that he believes that Stannis could actually do such a thing
I think he knew something was up. He was basically begging Stannis to take Stannis' wife and daughter back to Castle Black. Now whether or not he knew for a fact that she would be burned at the stake is another question. But he was obviously concerned for her.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:28 pm to Bamatab
I fully agree with that. But not because he thought they would kill Shireen
He knew how dire there situation was, he begged Stannis to withdraw his forces back to castle black the previous episode
Then he gets sent for supplies and he knows they probably won't last long enough for him to ever make the trip back, so he ask for Shireen to come with him to save her and the Aire to Stannis's line but he says no and Davos is left to say his likely final goodbyes to Shireen
In no way do I think it's likely that Davos went "hmm they are gonna burn this bitch, let me save my arse!"
He knew how dire there situation was, he begged Stannis to withdraw his forces back to castle black the previous episode
Then he gets sent for supplies and he knows they probably won't last long enough for him to ever make the trip back, so he ask for Shireen to come with him to save her and the Aire to Stannis's line but he says no and Davos is left to say his likely final goodbyes to Shireen
In no way do I think it's likely that Davos went "hmm they are gonna burn this bitch, let me save my arse!"
Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:37 pm to ladytiger118
quote:
I looked at the leaked pictures. This episode is going to be great .
How spoilerish are they for a book reader (through the sample WoW chapters)?
Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:41 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:I think that's why he leaves. He strongly suspects it, especially given the fact that Stannis is sending him away, but deep down, he just doesn't believe it.
I don't believe for a second that he would leave knowing that he was going to Burn her. Nor do I think that he believes that Stannis could actually do such a thing
I think this is a sign that Mel is trying to destroy the Baratheon family for their usurping of the throne. Stannis is clearly a fraudulent AA, and Mel is now responsible for killing Renly and ending Stannis' line.
Her not being at the Wall is pretty troubling, though.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 12:45 pm to blueboy
Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:02 pm to blueboy
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I think that's why he leaves. He strongly suspects it, especially given the fact that Stannis is sending him away, but deep down, he just doesn't believe it.
I think deep down he knows since he is aware that Mel already gave Stannis the option, and now Stannis is unwilling to retreat back to Castle Black. He knows Stannis wouldn't just continue marching to his and his army's certain death. But he has convinced himself that Stannis really wouldn't do it because of his admiration he has for Stannis.
I bet the whole time on his ride back to Castle Black he has a gnawing in his gut that he made a mistake leaving her. Hell, when he finds out he'll probably blame himself for not trying harder to stop it.
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:24 pm to Superior Pariah
quote:That makes sense, and might mean that I'm right about another theory.
Finale Theory
Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:33 pm to Superior Pariah
I could buy that if I thought she'd have the sand to go through with it.
Now I could absolutely see her killing herself.
Now I could absolutely see her killing herself.
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:16 pm to Superior Pariah
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Finale Theory: Jon isn't the only one that bites it.
If Jon and Mel both die the internet will explode
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:26 pm to Superior Pariah
I think the Agamemnon theory is a viable theory. One thing that weighs against it happening in my opinion is that Sylese was all for Melissadre and her sacrifices till literally at the very last minute. Now granted, she's crazy as a fricken' loon so that might play into it. But still I would have at least liked to have seen a smidgeon of character development in Sylese in the anti burn Shireen direction before the girl was on the pyre and Mel was breaking out R'hollor's favorite BBQ sauce.
Here's a separate question - would the "lord of light" have been content with burning one of those sons that Sylese kept pickled in jars? Or even with sedating Shireen before burning her?
Here's a separate question - would the "lord of light" have been content with burning one of those sons that Sylese kept pickled in jars? Or even with sedating Shireen before burning her?
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:40 pm to Methuselah
quote:
How spoilerish are they for a book reader (through the sample WoW chapters)?
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:49 pm to UMRealist
Is this official or fan made?
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:04 pm to Byron Bojangles III
That has to be fan made since it quotes the title of a Ray Bradbury novel
Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:05 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Looks like a bad photoshop job
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