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re: Game of Thrones S4:E8:"The Mountain and the Viper", HODORS ONLY no book readers

Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:49 pm to
I think the Lannisters wanted to keep control of Sansa in order to produce an heir with Stark and Lannister blood, which would have the backing from the northerners. That heir would eventually become Ward of the North. Just a guess though?
Posted by Antiheroaz
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:50 pm to
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"A song of fire and ice" is the name of the entire book series. It's not a season title or a book in the series


YESSSZZZZSZZSSSSS

Officially I'm on record as not being a book reader!
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:50 pm to
Lord have mercy...

Sansa was already married to Tyrion by the events of the RW.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:53 pm to
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Lord have mercy...

Sansa was already married to Tyrion by the events of the RW.


ah, good.

unconsummated...sooo

Tyrwin: You are no husband
Tyrion: She is mine
Tyrwin: was
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

Sansa was already married to Tyrion by the events of the RW.


Yea, that too
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:54 pm to
Tywinn wanted Tyrion to consummate the marriage to give Castle rock an heir
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:54 pm to
I'm starting to think you're a pretty good troll. The subtle misspellings of names is giving you away
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:58 pm to
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Tywinn wanted Tyrion to consummate the marriage to give Castle rock an heir


cool, one of the river lord's daughters will do, alignment with house Lannister...what could be better reason for the River Lord and the Lannisters than that? They both hated the starks

Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:05 pm to
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cool, one of the river lord's daughters will do, alignment with house Lannister...what could be better reason for the River Lord and the Lannisters than that? They both hated the starks


So he'd have to pay for another wedding when he is already broke?

Plus leaving Sansa in KL, keeps the door open for LF killing Joffery and taking Sansa, and for the trial of Tyrion.

If she goes to Lord Frey, she's never heard from again.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:08 pm to
Tywin wanted Robb and Catlyn dead to eliminate a threat, not just to be an evil bastard. Sansa was not a threat.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:09 pm to
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Plus leaving Sansa in KL, keeps the door open for LF killing Joffery and taking Sansa, and for the trial of Tyrion.


shea had the necklace, because wasn't she one of LF's whores anyway? She could have been getting coached by LF all this time.

see, even better. I should write.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:14 pm to
Please stop.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:19 pm to
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Please stop
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:41 pm to
yall jus jelly.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:39 pm to
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Gendry is a better candidate to be the "black-haired bird"


quote:

Robert never acknowledged him...because he didn't know about him. And gentry did have some unnamed Lord financing him


I ran across this quote:

quote:

The Targaryens wed brothers and sisters for three hundred years to keep bloodlines pure. Jaime and I are more than brother and sister: we shared a womb, came into this world together, we belong together."
?Cersei Lannister to Ned Stark


Gendry was in the way of their "pure bloodline", so they faked "black bird"s death to pave the way for Joffrey.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:03 pm to
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Gendry was in the way of their "pure bloodline", so they faked "black bird"s death to pave the way for Joffrey.



Joffrey didn't exist yet.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:16 pm to
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Joffrey didn't exist yet.


we don't know when. She could have been pregnant or something when they decided to move....or just that he wasn't pure so they had to get rid of him..(but she doesn't have it in her to kill him)

again, it could be nothing, but just seems weird....what's the point of Gendry surviving...(other bastards were slaughtered) and his age being greater than Joffrey seems to fit.

Just stuck on that black beauty line like it's supposed to mean something.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:22 pm to
LINK

Oberyn fight remastered
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 9:24 pm
Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:23 pm to
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Just stuck on that black beauty line like it's supposed to mean something.


The blackness of the child's hair did serve a purpose. It provided a contrast between children of Robert and children of Jaime. It was another piece of the puzzle Ned used to figure out Joffrey wasn't of Robert
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 9:24 pm
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:28 pm to
The two questions that need to be asked in regards to Jon's parentage are:

1. Do you believe Ned did/would sleep with someone other than Cat?

2. If the answer to 1 is "no" then you have to ask yourself who is Jon's real father/mother why Ned would agree to take him as his own even at the risk of alienating Cat.

IMO he would never take one of Robert or Cersie's children even if they asked/commanded him to.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 9:30 pm
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