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Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:06 pm to ShubutaMS
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sure seems like an overly elaborate way of getting the poison to g-ma. why not just hnad her the damn poison directly?
How are you going to frame Sansa and Tyrion for it?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:07 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I don't see how Littlefinger and the grandma could be in cahoots. When would they have planned this?
this wouldn't be the first time littlefinger and the tyrells enacted a major sneak-plan
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:08 pm to ShubutaMS
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sure seems like an overly elaborate way of getting the poison to g-ma. why not just hnad her the damn poison directly?
I'm thinking some kind of collaboration between Olenna and Littlefinger. It's a win-win for both: Joffrey dies, Sansa gets stuck with Littlefinger for fear of being implicated.
Plus, since Sansa is blamed then so is Tyrion by association, and he could get executed. Another win for Littlefinger so he could have Sansa all to himself.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:15 pm to Ace Midnight
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How are you going to frame Sansa and Tyrion for it?
By doing the same thing as was done at the same time. Just cut out the whole crystal-on-sansa-neck-and-steal-one. G-ma could've just had a crystal in her pocket that was given to her days prior.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:15 pm to Jet12
i still think tywinn was involved. again..wouldn't be the first time all those 3 worked together
this way tywin also gets to keep sansa (and the north) under his finger(via little finger)
this way tywin also gets to keep sansa (and the north) under his finger(via little finger)
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:16 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I don't see how Littlefinger and the grandma could be in cahoots. When would they have planned this?
Littlefinger brokered the deal between the Tyrells and Lannisters. He and Olenna could have planned this from the beginning somehow. To what end? No idea.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i still think tywinn was involved
I do too. I think it all goes back to Blackwater
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:31 pm to UMRealist
I think it was Hot Pie
If anyone knows how to bake a pie full of poison its him.
If anyone knows how to bake a pie full of poison its him.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:38 pm to ShubutaMS
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sure seems like an overly elaborate way of getting the poison to g-ma. why not just hnad her the damn poison directly?
i think you are missing the entire character of Little Finger. He plays many different angles at the same time while trying to achieve what he wants at all costs. He has always wanted Sansa and to be in power.
By linking Sansa to Joffs death, she is forced on the run and right into his arms. He made a deal with a family about to be half of the crown. He got exactly what he wanted by doing it this way.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:44 pm to BlacknGold
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why not just hnad her the damn poison directly?
Sansa needed a reason to trust Dontos to run off with him. Plus this way, Olenna doesn't have to have the murder weapon on her. If she was involved at all. I just speculate that she was in on it....and probably Tywin.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i still think tywinn was involved. again..wouldn't be the first time all those 3 worked together
this way tywin also gets to keep sansa (and the north) under his finger(via little finger)
Plus, Tywin said it himself: Joffrey didn't have the "right temperament" to be king. Tommen would be more likely to listen to his Small Council, so Tywin would still have some kind of power.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:46 pm to Jet12
Is there anyone who didn't want Joffrey dead? 
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:55 pm to ell_13
quote:If you are talking about fans, then yes, there are/were some people that liked to interject into any conversation about GOT "Ahem, I actually like Joffery and he is my favorite character"
Is there anyone who didn't want Joffrey dead?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:58 pm to ShubutaMS
I meant characters. Who benefitted from Joffrey as King the way he had become? No one.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:09 pm to UMRealist
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I don't see how Littlefinger and the grandma could be in cahoots. When would they have planned this?
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Littlefinger brokered the deal between the Tyrells and Lannisters. He and Olenna could have planned this from the beginning somehow. To what end? No idea.
I don't think there's much merit to the idea Littlefinger and Grandma couldn't have met or collaborated if they so desired. These are two of the smarter and more devious characters in the series.
I've been wondering if Littlefinger's motive might be to not only dispose or a dangerous and unpredictable mad king but also to get Tyrion out of the way so he might himself make a move on Sansa. Sansa is a rare asset in this series. A powerful tool without great powers of manipulation of her own. If he could possess or manipulate her independently of the influence of Tyrion he grows his own power.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:28 pm to molsusports
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I've been wondering if Littlefinger's motive might be to not only dispose or a dangerous and unpredictable mad king but also to get Tyrion out of the way so he might himself make a move on Sansa.
I think you're really onto something there.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:54 pm to DanglingFury
He couldn't of predicted that Tyrion would definitely get the blame.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:05 pm to UMRealist
It's either a great by-product of his plan, or his plan was only slightly less complicated than The Joker getting himself arrested in The Dark Knight.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:10 pm to UMRealist
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He couldn't of predicted that Tyrion would definitely get the blame.
true
although cersei probably would have been inclined to jump to this given:
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