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re: Exodus Gods and Kings not off to a great start. 50% on the ole Tomatoes
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:29 am to BlacknGold
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:29 am to BlacknGold
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but how many times do we need to watch the same damn story?
enough times for you to learn some reverence young man. Now pay for the ticket or face eternal damnation.
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:37 am to BlacknGold
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maybe because i went to a catholic school, but how many times do we need to watch the same damn story?
I have no desire to see this, but it looks to be completely different from the biblical story so at least it'll be something new
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:47 am to Tactical1
Christian Bale is the lead as a historical/religious figure and Moses, according to Mr. Bale (the GD Batman, BTW):
SO, that's likely to come across in the performance.
What's not to like? (Still #TeamRidley - but this may have been a swing and a miss on source material for him.)
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... was likely schizophrenic and was one of the most barbaric individuals that I ever read about in my life
SO, that's likely to come across in the performance.
What's not to like? (Still #TeamRidley - but this may have been a swing and a miss on source material for him.)
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:55 am to Ace Midnight
Yeah, if you actually read the bible, it's shocking how bloody and brutal it is. Moses was not some gentle shepherd, he was the leader of nomadic tribes that invaded and massacred populations.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:57 am to LucasP
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enough times for you to learn some reverence young man. Now pay for the ticket or face eternal damnation.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:59 am to Tactical1
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I was going to say Kingdom of Heaven
That movie was a fricking abortion.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:01 am to LoveThatMoney
You should've been aborted for saying such things
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:03 am to biglego
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You should've been aborted for saying such things
Sweet ad hominem. There is nothing about that movie that made any fricking sense and you won't convince me otherwise.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:04 am to athenslife101
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One of my sadest days ever was talking to a girl about the Ottomans and after 10 minutes, she says "wait a second, your still talking about furniture." She makes 100k more than I do.
I feel your pain, brah. My reserve unit commander a while back is a muckety muck in HR for BMW USA. With the 1 class out, I asked, "So, now that there's a 1 class, is there going to be an X1?" (All the Xs are made in the US) - she responded, "There's an X3."
She makes more than 100K more than I do and got promoted to Colonel (West Point will do that).
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:07 am to LoveThatMoney
Kingdom of Heaven is hella underrated.
Arguably Edward Norton's best performance. Even the elf was good (although he isn't much of an actor).
Heck, it's one of the best movies ever about the Crusades.
Arguably Edward Norton's best performance. Even the elf was good (although he isn't much of an actor).
Heck, it's one of the best movies ever about the Crusades.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:07 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:09 am to biglego
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Moses was not some gentle shepherd, he was the leader of nomadic tribes that invaded and massacred populations.
Sure you aren't thinking of Joshua?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:21 am to Ace Midnight
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Heck, it's one of the best movies ever about the Crusades
There aren't many movies made about the crusades to be honest. But unless the director's cut explains how Legolas goes from being unable to properly swing a sword to being some great military mind, i can't get passed the baseline fault in the plot.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:21 am to OMLandshark
Joshua just continued Moses policy
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:22 am to biglego
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Yeah, if you actually read the bible, it's shocking how bloody and brutal it is. Moses was not some gentle shepherd, he was the leader of nomadic tribes that invaded and massacred populations.
Certain parts of the bible itself is pretty ruff, plenty of R rated stuff.
But Moses was not at all what they are portraying him to be. You say he wasn't a gentle shepherd, but he was literally shepherding his flock when the burning bush appeared before him
and when he received the commission to lead Israel. He was 80 years old at the time. He was a shepherd. Sure events changed, but if we are going by actual biblical events, not Ridley Scott's take, Moses was the one commissioned by god to deliver the plagues. He himself thought he wasn't even a good enough speaker to talk to pharaoh, much less be a outspoken crazy battle leader. Aaron did most of the talking.
He was described by god himself as being the meekness person on the earth. Not some war hero.
I don't even think Scott believes in the bible, so his take on the event is going to be purposefully off. From his own words he is making the plagues/parting of the red sea to be more scientific happenings not definitely inspired.
Fwiw I avoid talking about the bible here. But this movie is going to be ridiculous so I'll defend it a little bit
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:25 am to LoveThatMoney
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But unless the director's cut explains how Legolas goes from being unable to properly swing a sword to being some great military mind, .
I agree with this. I just ignore it and enjoy the rest of the movie.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:44 am to biglego
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I just ignore it and enjoy the rest of the movie.
There are a $hit ton of good performances in this movie - I mentioned Norton - heck, this is probably the elf's best performance, as well as solid (or better) outings from Neeson and Irons, who aren't too shabby themselves. The Csokas guy seems born to play medieval villains after watching the movie and Eva Green was fiya
Gleeson, Massoud and Siddig were all excellent as well.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:45 am to Pilot Tiger
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read a history book brah
i love how people say i never admit to a mistake, i clearly admit to a mistake on page 1, and then i have some dogtard shite-talking me
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:47 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:49 am to LoveThatMoney
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But unless the director's cut explains how Legolas goes from being unable to properly swing a sword to being some great military mind, i can't get passed the baseline fault in the plot.
in the DC he is asked about his history in wars and says he's been a fighter and a master builder guy. he's seen both sides. i think he's an expert in siege weapons and other mechanical shite
now as far as the generalship and all that yeah. the director's cut is a 1000% improvement on the original, but it still has issues in teh 2nd half. i just watched the first half again on thanksgivign and it's fricking amazing shite.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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i love how people say i never admit to a mistake
We don't say that, Jake - as far as you know.
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i clearly admit to a mistake on page 1
Nobody was more shocked than me.
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then i have some bamatard shite-talking me
I'm working on a plan for that, but it will involve a certain amount of genocide - not sure we as a fanbase are up to it, but I want to have that plan in place...just in case.
Back to the OP's question:
I will likely not see this film, and I did not watch Noah. I do not like Christian Bale, on a personal level, and do not care for his roles as the protagonist, other than American Psycho. I think these directors and Hollywood are trying too hard to tell blockbuster religious stories in a decidedley non-religious or even anti-religious way, and this goes back to Last Temptation - a film I enjoyed, but understood that it offended religious sensibilities.
Noah and Exodus seem to be calling out to a core audience out of one side of their mouths, then calling them stupid, superstitious idiots out of the other.
Just MHO.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:03 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Kingdom of Heaven
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That movie was a fricking abortion.
I'm going to assume you're a liberal and your use/definition of abortion means it's a good thing
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